Illegal charter

[avbug]

What exactly is it that you're laughing about?

No, the FAA isn't just getting around to this...the FAA has actively been prosecuting illegal charters for a very long time. However, the FAA has also provided additional means to report such events, and has provided additional funding and a fresh mandate to actively pursue the offenders.

It's not a laughing matter.

 

[doog]

When Mr. Smith pays his buddy Al to take him to Yazoo City in his Bonanza, he knows he's not chartering from a legitimate service. He's paying his buddy Al. Whether he knows it's legal or not is really irrelevant. Whether someone else does, and uses the hotline or other venue to report this illegal operation, is very much relevant, as well as proper.

It's Mr. Smith's Bonanza? If so it sounds like a legit part 91 op, no?

 

[avbug]

If it's Mr. Smith's Bonanza, then obviously the situation would be irrelevant to the discussion. But that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about an illegal charter.

 

[doog]

If it's Mr. Smith's Bonanza, then obviously the situation would be irrelevant to the discussion. But that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about an illegal charter.

Got it... you used the subject pronoun as the direct object, indicating it was Mr. Smith's Bonanza... now what if Mr. Smith rents the aircraft from a third party?

 

[NuGuy]

What exactly is it that you're laughing about?

No, the FAA isn't just getting around to this...the FAA has actively been prosecuting illegal charters for a very long time. However, the FAA has also provided additional means to report such events, and has provided additional funding and a fresh mandate to actively pursue the offenders.

It's not a laughing matter.

Hiya Avbug,

I agree %100. Been doing this for almost 20 years now. FAA "hot button" issues wax and wane, but the one constant over the years has been the issue of illegal charters.

Woe betide ANYONE who gets close to this with the FAA. If they even get a sniff of something, they will come after you with a powerful will.

Nu

 

[Daveman]

Avbug, no laughing matter at all, hence the purple upside-down smile.[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]

[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]One review of South Florida’s Yellow Pages and FAA records indicated that 14 of the companies listed were operating a charter business illegally.”

Now that's a laughing matter!
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[avbug]

now what if Mr. Smith rents the aircraft from a third party?

That really depends, as insufficient information is provided. The FAAwill ultimately make the determination. If Mr. Smith is attempting to get around the requirements of Parts 119 and 135, he may be up the creek. Or he may be okay.

Individuals have attempted unsuccessfully to circumvent the requirements of Part 135 by calling the flight a training flight or "flight instruction," as well as all other manner of loophole and sideways logic. It seldom holds water.

The FAA takes this seriously.

 

[gret]

Here is a link to a great overview of the matter-

http://www.aviatorservices.com/aircraft_usage_reimbursements.htm

The fact is, flying Part 91 with a corporate aircraft is almost impossible today with corporate allocations of the aircraft expenses, tax rules, personal use by executives, etc.

One company, I don't remember the name, had a product that they were pitching. It was called 91+ or 91plus?

 

[Daveman]

Here is a link to a great overview of the matter-

http://www.aviatorservices.com/aircraft_usage_reimbursements.htm

The fact is, flying Part 91 with a corporate aircraft is almost impossible today with corporate allocations of the aircraft expenses, tax rules, personal use by executives, etc.

One company, I don't remember the name, had a product that they were pitching. It was called 91+ or 91plus?

David M. Hernandez, Esq......

is not the FAA. The FAR/AIM are the rules we have to follow.

 

[outtahere]

So Mr. Smith being the pax could not rent an airplane and then hire his own pilot (Al)? That would seem to be legal, at least I hope it is since I owned a business offering pilot services, and did this quite frequently. What say you avbug (Mr. FAA)?