If given choice, CRJ or ERJ? And Why...

[Lumber Yak]

I have a classmate who may have an opportunity to bid either CRJ or ERJ with Mesa (currently a 1900D FO). Excluding geographic preferences (CRJs on West Coast and ERJs on East Coast), which aircraft would you prefer to fly as an FO if given the same option?

If you fly either type, what do you like and dislike about it? Are you happy in your aircraft? Either way, he will be happy to fly a jet vs. his droning turboprop...

Thanks for your opinions...

 

[Jack Hass]

Maybe a droning turboprop.....but he will miss it when he's pushing buttons in a jet that doesn't need him!!!!

 

[Pilot877]

Jets that don't need us? That's way off target.....

The CRJ is a lot of fun, I dont know anything about the ERJ, but I havent heard any complaints about it.

 

[Stingman]

pushing buttons? HA! Props are for boats!

 

[Jack Hass]

Whatever guys!

 

[Jetsnake]

Never have flowin the Jungle Jet,
I would chose the CRJ for it's
reliability,

My choice

Jetsnake

 

[LearLove]

Answer C

Take the upgrade in the 1900

BTW - jets are for kids and scope loving mainline guys

 

[sabreliner]

The ERJ is nothing but a Brasilia with a swept wing and motors on the tail. Fancy buttons and switches, but the same cheesy, third-world systems.

It is also really noisy because you are pushing a 250kt nose through the air at 300+ knots.

I'd take the CRJ.

 

[English]

Take the CRJ. I used to work for a company that flew the 135 and 145, and I hated flying in the thing. Ride was not as comfortable as the CRJ. Plus, our company had so many mechanical issues with the ERJs, you'd never know they were brand spankin' new airplanes. The ERJ just seems cheap and flimsy compared to the CRJ.

 

[jetdriven]

upgrade in the 1900 is not a possibility because all the CRJ-ERJ FO's bidding CA in the 1900. I ma a mesa pilot going thru the same thing. Go CRJ

 

[Pileit]

I'll speak in favor of the ERJ. Haven't flown the CRJ so I can't really compare, but the Jungle Jet was a blast to fly. No, the ERJ isn't just a stretch Brasilia with fancey push buttons instead of switches. It's way more computerized and automated than the emb-120. Some common complaints from the average line pilot was crappy wx radar, and it's inability to climb with any rate of speed (though CRJ pilots bitch about that too).

 

[CF34-3B1]

I've never flown the 135/145, but I have 3000+ hours in the 120, and coming up on 2000 in the CRJ. I can tell you without a doubt, Canadair builds a better quality product. Not to knock the Embraer, it's a good airplane, but I really think the level of engineering and attention to detail is higher in the CRJ.

Also, as previously mentioned, the Jungle Jet is LOUD inside. (I've ridden in the cabin and the cockpit pre 9/11) The CRJ is much quieter. And when it comes to engines, the CRJ is the hands down winner. Knowing your engine was originally designed for combat use gives one a nice warm fuzzy feeling.

I only know one person who'd flown both the ERJ and CRJ (Eagle) and he says he prefers the CRJ as well. (Granted, he's on the -700, which is not an apples to apples comparison as 145 vs -200 would be)

 

[tedstriker]

All this talk about the ERJ being so loud, has anybody every been in a turboprop?
CRJ vs ERJ:
Both are good planes, the CRJ is better, but choose the one that will let you hold the best line.

 

[AAsRedHeadedbro]

Obviously we are all splitting hairs here. I currently fly the EMB 135/140/145 series of jets and I am really enjoying them. Other than a pesky APU problem that doesn't seem to want to go away (it usually seems to be happening on the older jets by the way), my experience with the airplane is that it has been pretty reliable. It's a good climber at the lower and higher altitudes but a lousy climber in the middle altitudes (My observation is that the engineers have programmed the FADECs to produce too little climb thrust in the middle altitudes. Until we get into the high 20's to low 30's the N1's are usually only in the 88% to 89% range. Then suddenly they begin to rise toward the 94% to 95% range and, surprise surprise, the airplane begins to accelerate and climb again). The Honeywell Primus 1000 avionics system and UNS-1K FMS's are user friendly and very capable. The cockpit is loud, but I've been in the CRJ cockpit a few times and it's deafening too (come on CRJ folks, you know it's true).

Both airplanes are great birds and I would be just as happy flying either one. Just my opinion.

The CRJ700, on the other hand...

 

[jetdriven]

He doesnt have the choice between the CRJ and ERJ, there are no more ERJ deliveries for MESA and therefore no classes scheduled for the ERJ.