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If everyone else can do it, why can't ASA?

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Here is a question.
You arrive at an aircraft, and for some reason, lets say apu inop on 95 degree day and plane is way too hot for revenue flight. So the captain denys the aircraft or says get it fixed. So you get a new airplane.
The company will then give the same ship to another crew. If they take the ship then nothing will ever get fixed. It needs to be written in the can, that plane was not accepted for MX reasons, so EVERY crew DENYS the airplane. If eveyone does it then things will get fixed. If it doesn't happen, the company will be able to get away with these items.
Just my opinion.
 
Tell me, what exactly would you write up?

The APU was written up, then deferred. The aircraft is legal for service as per the MEL. Just because the captain doesn't want to take the aircraft (and rightly so in a 95 degree day when there is one working ground air cart that probably puts out 50 deg. air at best) does not mean there's an additional maintenance discrepancy on the aircraft.
 
By looking at the ASA Flight Control Daily Log a lot of Captains are refusing to take aircraft with inop APU's. That is what every Captain needs to do! Then they will fix them.


701EV
 
I agree. We refused one of the BR6?? independence a/c due to apu inop. And that was per Chief pilot to refuse the a/c.
 
So tell me what to do. Do I send ASA my resume or do I sit on the fence and wait till Skywest picks them up and then apply?
 
Mojo Risen said:
So tell me what to do. Do I send ASA my resume or do I sit on the fence and wait till Skywest picks them up and then apply?


Just send your resumé to Mesa.
 
Without APU's in the summer how are the chocolate granola chewy bars supposed to survive!?!?!?
 
Mojo,

Send your resume to everybody, not just ASA

701EV
 
Palerider957 said:
"The vote," at this rate won't take place until 2016.

I still hear pilots nursing broken planes around, fudging times (i.e. SLC) to give the company stellar on time perf., and generally doing everything they can to keep the Titanic on course.

The only way we will EVER see a new contract (let alone a better contract), is by bringing the company to it's knees. This is the ONLY way Delta will notice us--banners over the stadium are cute, but ineffective.

Skips letters tell us how "well" the company is doing, with record loads, good performence stats, etc. Why? Because pilots aren't putting any pressure on the comany.

As a group, we are a bunch of patsy school girls, and we are getting what we deserve.:mad:


Amen Palerider! Amen.
 
:cool: That is right fella's, we MUST deny those inop apu aircraft in the heat! It is the "Captains Authority" deeming the heat making it unsafe to take the aircraft! Until things pick-up in the contract area, call EXACT TIMES!! Quit helping the company out! They have screwed us for almost 3 years, it is time to let the "on-time" thing blow away! Keep the faith guys/gals!:o
 
>>>>call EXACT TIMES!!<<<<<<<<<<

What is the correct way to call out? Thought we had a letter or something stating when the door closes......I wanna know! Thanks!
 
:D Freebird: When the boarding door closes, that is when the clock starts! That is unless they have changed it for the umpteenth time and I have'nt read it! Someone slap those folks over there in the Granite Palace!!
 
Calling Times

The contract specifically defines when to call the times in and out. It states that you are out when the aircraft is moving under its own power or being pushed by a tug....NOT WHEN THE DOOR CLOSES!!!! The company put out a memo a couple years back trying to change this because they knew it would increase operational performance. But this is in our contract and the company is trying to change our contract without giving us anything in return. However, it may be argued that we make more money by using the company's method so it's really up to you to decide. Make the company happy and make a few more minutes of block or stick it to the company and defend the current contract?
 
:cool: Thanks WWEFan, I did not know that was in our contract!:o I better do some more reading! Fly Safe!!
 
We're famous for having standby days thrown in on overlapping trips. Rather than just pick up the trip that was dropped due to integration, you get to sit on your a$$ and collect 4 hours of pay.

My July line had the 1st off, then a 3 day on the second. My June line had a trip ending on Jul. 2. End result was finishing the June trip costing one day off from a 13 day off line, and 2 standby days after that.

Aug looks to be more of the same BS. I've also seen friends line have the first 5 days of the month off, then assigned a 4 day starting on the 1st, giving him a 1 day break between 4 day trips, and taking him down to min days off for the month.

Integration, transition, whatever the company wants to call it can kiss my a$$. Give that flying to the buildup line holders who are just happy to not have to sit reserve the entire month.
 
On the subject of times.


Yes, I agree the time starts when the contract says it does, not when some memo says to call it.

This is important because we are letting the company change the contract with a memo.

Call the time that will make you the MOST money.

BUT, on the radio and any other reference to times, PLEASE, call it CAA123 BLOCKED OUT @ so and so.

NOT DOOR CLOSED @

and for god sakes

stop saying Door closed ON TIME!

I am sick of this company asking for our help in every little way, for nothing in return.

MEDECO
 
I agree. Slow it down. We also have a bunch new hires with the Kool-Aid Vision, practically washing airplanes. Just do your job and nothing more.
 
Another thing. If you're on duty more than 15 hours, you must have 10 hours of rest that night. No exceptions. There are a lot of 3 day trip with 13+ hour duty days out there. Watch for it. Alot of pilots don't know about this.
 
War Eagle bro.....
 

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