ID90, ID75 question

[huncowboy]

Hi All,

I would appreciate if someone could point me toward a website that shows a current list of airlines participating in ID90 travel. The only one I was able to find was this:

http://www.homestead.com/DLPIONEERS/DLPIONEER6.html

But it is not current.

Apart of that, I have a couple of questions as well:

1. If you buy an ID ticket, how long can it be used in case you don't get on the flight?

2. Is there any other way to find out a price of a ticket (and buy it) other than going to your own company's counter?

3. Is there any way to check the passenger load in advance? Like call a number or get on a website?

4. Is your priority the lowest with ID travel? How is priority decided between ID travelers?

5. Finally how is it possible that two airlines, selling the same ticket (in this case it was Lufthansa vs. Malev from Munich to Budapest) for the same advertised price, with the same ID rate (ID75 for parents in this case) came up with two completely different prices. Lufthansa was $150 with ID75 and Malev was only $85 with ID75.

Thanks a lot to anyone who could shed some light on the above for me.

 

[flyinglow]

With Delta's new fare system, are ID90's cheaper??

 

[PCL_128]

1. If you buy an ID ticket, how long can it be used in case you don't get on the flight?

Usually it is valid for 6 months, but some airlines have different rules than others. Just ask the ticket agent when you buy your ticket.

2. Is there any other way to find out a price of a ticket (and buy it) other than going to your own company's counter?

This can depend on the airline you work for, but in most cases you either have to call reservations or go to your airline's ticket counter to get prices or purchase a ticket. Call your company's pass bureau (interline dept, employee travel dept, etc...) to see if there are other ways at your specific airline.

3. Is there any way to check the passenger load in advance? Like call a number or get on a website?

The best way is to call the airline's reservations number and ask them. If you tell them you are a pilot planning to non-rev, they will usually be more than happy to let you know if seats are available.

4. Is your priority the lowest with ID travel? How is priority decided between ID travelers?

Each airline has its own system of assigning priority to non-rev travelers.

5. Finally how is it possible that two airlines, selling the same ticket (in this case it was Lufthansa vs. Malev from Munich to Budapest) for the same advertised price, with the same ID rate (ID75 for parents in this case) came up with two completely different prices. Lufthansa was $150 with ID75 and Malev was only $85 with ID75.

The advertised price is not what you need to go by. ID75 and ID90 fares are based on full fare ticket prices. ID75 means you get a 75% discount off the full Y-fare price (and 90% off for an ID90). The advertised price is usually not the full fare unless you are checking the price at the last minute and the flight is mostly full. Otherwise, the advertised price will usually be discounted somewhat (sometimes quite a bit). In your example, Malev's full fare ticket price is a lot less than Lufthansa's.

 

[dash8driver]

non-rev passes are negotiated between each airline. not all airlines have the same non-rev agreements with the same airlines. airline A might have a id-90 agreement with airline Z, but airline B might have a different agreement (Z-fare, 75, 50) or none at all with airline Z. you pretty much have to go to your pass bureau to get the details.

Z-fares are becoming more prevalent, and they are better than id-90s. a lot of airlines are changing their id-90 agreements over to z-fares.

now for the rest of your questions:

1) typically its 90 days. if you dont use it, you can return it for a refund.

2) you can call your pass bureau, they will have the exact fare. or since id-90s are based off of full fare, call res. and find out what the full fare is, and multiply it by .1.

3) call reservations of the company. explain you're a non-rev and would like to check the loads on that flight. they'll give you all the info you need. you can also use www.idtraveller.com. the only problem is it doesnt give you the actual load, it shows how many seats are available. so you have to take into account how many they are overbooking by. good to use in conjuntion with calling res.

4) priority usually goes by affiliation with the company first, seniority and check-in time second. first priority are employees of the company (they arent on an id, but are non-reving none the less), next comes people from airlines that are subsidiaries of that airline, next come the people who are from codeshare and alliance partners, then everyone else. for priority between 2 people in the same grouping, its usually by check-in time.

5) its based off of full fare prices. the listed prices you are looking at are probably discounted fares.

z-fares are really cool. if your company doesnt have em yet tell them to get on it. the fares are universal and calculated out by the distance of the leg. there is a chart that shows the rates (0-500, 501-1000, etc). one ticket can be used on any carrier participating in z-fares on the same route. so if you can get a z-fare ticket on lufthansa and they are full, you can take the same ticket to malev and use it there. no more need to buy a quiver of id tickets just to go on vacation.

 

[huncowboy]

Thanks for all the help!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[dash8driver]

if you go to budapest, go to that castle/fortress up on the hill. go into the catacombs, they have a fountain that spews red wine down there... bring your cup...

 

[labbats]

With Delta's new fare system, are ID90's cheaper??

This made me laff~