Ibt vote new or old?

[1folinepilot]

No worries.. The word is out that just about nobody trusts the "slate of experience" and will be voting them out. The only 2 in their crew that will be staing are AJ (because he is unaposed) and Rick K because he is the only one that is remotely ok. The rest of the Experience slate is just on an ego trip trying to get a job with the teamster national with no loyalty to the local members.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Every displaced pilot needs to remember that it wasn't the company that insisted you take a pay cut when you were bumped from your old fleet. Vote accordingly.

Blue you forgot to include the guys that were "red circled". So once again, I think you were only looking out for yourself, and were falling for a company trap to install a B scale. Good thing the slate of experience saved us from the likes of you.

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

Blue you forgot to include the guys that were "red circled". So once again, I think you were only looking out for yourself, and were falling for a company trap to install a B scale. Good thing the slate of experience saved us from the likes of you.

Seems like you feel the FO pilots keep needing to be saved from people who don't share your same views. If he is also a union member does his opinion not carry the equal weight of yours? So much for all for one.

Unity

 

[BlueNose]

Seems like you feel the FO pilots keep needing to be saved from people who don't share your same views. If he is also a union member does his opinion not carry the equal weight of yours?

C'mon TWA, we're talking about the IBT here. All are equal, but some are more equal than others. Can't imagine why you guys haven't joined up yet.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Seems like you feel the FO pilots keep needing to be saved from people who don't share your same views. If he is also a union member does his opinion not carry the equal weight of yours? So much for all for one.

Unity

Some members chose not to be informed. So no, not all opinions carry the same weight. BTW didn't you inform me on certain issues and I had the intellectual honest to admit I was wrong and corrected my self?

 

[shanes123]

The Company was given several options, that they choose not to take. Knowing the offer they countered with the union could not accept and it would make them look bad. Another case of KR out smarting the slate of experience. well played KR

 

[1folinepilot]

The Company was given several options, that they choose not to take. Knowing the offer they countered with the union could not accept and it would make them look bad. Another case of KR out smarting the slate of experience. well played KR

What were the offers from the company? The problem with Slinghoffa and their crew is that they hide the truth and lie to the membership so nobdy trusts them

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

What were the offers from the company? The problem with Slinghoffa and their crew is that they hide the truth and lie to the membership so nobdy trusts them

That's been several years ago and you are only bringing it up now? If you were truly interested in the details, you would have found out long ago. The threat to us now, as pilots, is the establishment of a B scale.

 

[1folinepilot]

That's been several years ago and you are only bringing it up now? If you were truly interested in the details, you would have found out long ago. The threat to us now, as pilots, is the establishment of a B scale.

We asked back then and you would not tell us what offers you made. You simply spoke on our behalf without asking us what we wanted. The only thing you cared about is what you wanted and what makes you look good for the national.

This is why the "Slate of Experience" is getting voted out

 

[slammer]

No matter which way.....Please Vote

I believe the silent majority will vote VDM.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Well I hope that whomever ends up in the leadership position knows the true sentiment of the pilots. And also the consequences. The one thing I have to give Slinghoffa credit for was averting a wildcat strike.

 

[shanes123]

Just like I believe in term limits for politicians. The 1108 needs new fresh faces with new ideas on how to deal with a company like Flops. Slinghoffa (LOL. No disrespect to Matt just thought that was funny) has done a decent job with what he had to work with at the time, But its time for him to let someone new come in and take a crack at it. The New Slate is very well versed with the likes of this management and I think they know whats needed to get the job done.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Yes shanes, it would be nice to have someone carry the ball further downfield, but you want to go with someone with a weak business backround? Unionship is nothing but a business and it better deliver. You are right that the membership is tired of the talk. If VDM claims the lead, I sure hope they can deliver. The built up resentment in the pilot group will create a backlash that will finish FO as we know it. I hope it works out well for ALL of us.

 

[The Architect]

Just a Little Longer

C'mon TWA, we're talking about the IBT here. All are equal, but some are more equal than others. Can't imagine why you guys haven't joined up yet.

Patience.

Once you are granted a PLOA you can go to work at Flexjet. You and TWA will surely be good buddies.

You can pat each other on the back and tell each other how great you are.

It's a beautiful thing...just a little longer.

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

Some members chose not to be informed. So no, not all opinions carry the same weight. BTW didn't you inform me on certain issues and I had the intellectual honest to admit I was wrong and corrected my self?

So how does one become informed by your standard so that their opinion matters?

Since I have been a member of several unions before, let me explain how this works. Everyone has a say. Each persons say is as important as everyone else, even if it isn't the popular opinion.

What you are suggesting is a union in which everyone is required to join and pay dues, but unless your opinion aligns with the majority view than keep it to yourself. If this is the case then how would change ever be accomplished? Or is that what you are attempting to prevent?