I Think Its About Time

[777_Jackpot]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125866886792856401.html?mod=dist_smartbrief

In my opinion, by creating a structured system to ensure a company's "professional" pilots are actually operating their aircraft in a professional manor would render the creation of arbitrary flight time regulations (included in HR 3371) obsolete. I don't think the problems in the industry are a result of a lack of technically proficient pilots, although I am sure there are some, but rather a lack of professional technically proficient pilots. Although, I am sure some will disagree.

 

[quinnlake]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125866886792856401.html?mod=dist_smartbrief

In my opinion, by creating a structured system to ensure a company's "professional" pilots are actually operating their aircraft in a professional manor would render the creation of arbitrary flight time regulations (included in HR 3371) obsolete. I don't think the problems in the industry are a result of a lack of technically proficient pilots, although I am sure there are some, but rather a lack of professional technically proficient pilots. Although, I am sure some will disagree.

What? Are suggesting access to flight data recorders? Video taping of flight decks?

 

[Willy21]

There will never be a piece of legislation that prevents stupidity. Professionalism begins and ends in your cockpit with you demonstrating to both junior and senior flight crew members. I am sure you uphold the bar as do I. It is our job as pilots to set that bar high and not allow anything less. It is not and should not be a job for politicians.

 

[N813CA]

Would any other person like to be recorded at work 24-7?

 

[LazyLightnin']

Three things:
-The airline safety record has never been better.
-This wouldn't prevent pilots from making mistakes like landing on a taxiway or yanking on the yoke to recover from a stall.
-This bill will never happen. "ALPA. See! We are good for something!"

 

[outtahere]

All of you republican's look at who introduced this bill. It is time to stop voting against our best interests. Like it or not, we are not white collar workers, we are a union trade group, skilled yes, but not white collar. Republican congressmen and women are not our friends.

 

[sitbackrelax]

All of you republican's look at who introduced this bill. It is time to stop voting against our best interests. Like it or not, we are not white collar workers, we are a union trade group, skilled yes, but not white collar. Republican congressmen and women are not our friends.

Unfortunately, this kind of kneejerk crap usually originates from both sides of the aisle. Congress people would rather write these simple minded bills than work on the hard stuff.

 

[Erlanger]

What? Are suggesting access to flight data recorders? Video taping of flight decks?

Video taping is coming to a cockpit nearest you. It's been in the works for the last 5 years. Expect it in the cockpit in the next 5 to 7 years.

 

[Jetjockey]

Video taping is coming to a cockpit nearest you. It's been in the works for the last 5 years. Expect it in the cockpit in the next 5 to 7 years.

It may have been been proposed more than once, but it was met with very heavy resistance every time. ALPA does more than print a magazine.

 

[crj567]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125866886792856401.html?mod=dist_smartbrief

In my opinion, by creating a structured system to ensure a company's "professional" pilots are actually operating their aircraft in a professional manor would render the creation of arbitrary flight time regulations (included in HR 3371) obsolete. I don't think the problems in the industry are a result of a lack of technically proficient pilots, although I am sure there are some, but rather a lack of professional technically proficient pilots. Although, I am sure some will disagree.

I used to live on a "professional manor." It was a truly beautiful place.. We had cattle, chickens, horses, and a burbling brook.... And peach trees as far as the eye could see.

 

[Erlanger]

Would any other person like to be recorded at work 24-7?

My wife's a nurse. Cameras are already in some hospitals video taping surgeries because of screw-ups. Now the video can and will be used against doctors and nurses that make mistakes. It's not a federal rule but it's up to each individual states medical board as to which hospitals get it.

 

[LazyLightnin']

My wife's a nurse. Cameras are already in some hospitals video taping surgeries because of screw-ups. Now the video can and will be used against doctors and nurses that make mistakes. It's not a federal rule but it's up to each individual states medical board as to which hospitals get it.

Except pilots have access to the circuit breakers, and circuit breakers have a tendency of popping on their own.

 

[JettBoii]

I'll just stick my chewin' gum over the lens.

 

[LazyLightnin']

I'll just stick my chewin' gum over the lens.

So the last thing they see is you sticking chewing gum over the lens? You're better off popping the breaker with the power off.

 

[Erlanger]

So the last thing they see is you sticking chewing gum over the lens? You're better off popping the breaker with the power off.

Supposedly, yes supposedly the camera is only going to be focused on the instrument panels and overhead to see what switches and buttons the crew is flippin and pushing. They say that's the the purpose for the cameras so if we can land a man on the moon why can't they wire the buttons and switches so the FDR can register the pushing, flipping, pulling and turnings?

 

[JettBoii]

Mr. Lazy. If the FAA decides to put a camera in the cockpit rest assured it will be battery powered with a tamper proof sealed case that can only be serviced by maintenance so as to prevent "smart guys" like you from "popping" the circuit breaker. The gum comment was a joke.

 

[LazyLightnin']

Mr. Lazy. If the FAA decides to put a camera in the cockpit rest assured it will be battery powered with a tamper proof sealed case that can only be serviced by maintenance so as to prevent "smart guys" like you from "popping" the circuit breaker. The gum comment was a joke.

Like the cvr?



Moot point. It'll never happen.

 

[JettBoii]

Where you from anyways?

 

[JettBoii]

Disregard.

 

[Salukipilot4590]

You WOULD think its about time wouldn't you?!

 

[777_Jackpot]

There will never be a piece of legislation that prevents stupidity. Professionalism begins and ends in your cockpit with you demonstrating to both junior and senior flight crew members. I am sure you uphold the bar as do I. It is our job as pilots to set that bar high and not allow anything less. It is not and should not be a job for politicians.

I absolutely agree. Unfortunately there are those in our profession for some reason or another refuse or are incapable of setting a high bar and allow whatever level of professionalism is convenient for them. With absolutely no regard to the image they portray or the responsibility they have to their passengers, crew and people on the ground, these pilots require a less autonomous means of regulation.

 

[Jack-O-Lantern]

All of you republican's look at who introduced this bill. It is time to stop voting against our best interests. Like it or not, we are not white collar workers, we are a union trade group, skilled yes, but not white collar. Republican congressmen and women are not our friends.

I don't know about your collar but mine is white!

 

[JettBoii]

I met Dweezil once. Cool guy.

 

[JoeMerchant]

All of you republican's look at who introduced this bill. It is time to stop voting against our best interests. Like it or not, we are not white collar workers, we are a union trade group, skilled yes, but not white collar. Republican congressmen and women are not our friends.

How about Democrat Al Franken introducing legislation to ban personal computers in the cockpit?

Congress isn't our friend whether they are Democrat or Republican...I vote for the person that will do the least amount of harm....Democrats don't fit that requirement..

I vote for those who I think will do the least amount of harm to the economy because you need a good economy if you want to bargain for more.

Voting Democrat is against my interest and the interests of this country....This wouldn't be an issue if two of our own hadn't totally lost situational awareness for hours...Do they get any blame for this issue?

 

[Flightdawg]

Mr. Lazy. If the FAA decides to put a camera in the cockpit rest assured it will be battery powered with a tamper proof sealed case that can only be serviced by maintenance so as to prevent "smart guys" like you from "popping" the circuit breaker. The gum comment was a joke.

This will work! At least until a flight is canceled because the batteries in the camera died or it shorted out and caused a fire. I don't know if it will happen, but if it does, it will be hardwired to the aircraft and have a circuit breaker for protection.

 

[Minimaniac]

Cameras in the cockpit? Nothing a Sharpie marker can't fix. The limited area of "defect" makes it easier to miss on preflight, and harder for maintenance to repair cheaply.

The airlines know better than to think that we will allow cameras into our cockpits, and that we will allow our CVR data to be held against us when we safely complete a flight. Such actions will prove costly if enacted.

Like someone said above, you can't regulate stupid, and a camera won't stop you from crashing an airplane.

 

[paddlehigh]

Why don't they jsut look at FOCA. You don't need cameras FOCA gives you all the info on the flight. Also they used to listen to voice recorders in the old days, but heard nothing because pilots just popped the circuit breakers all the time.

 

[LawReview]

Why don't they jsut look at FOCA. You don't need cameras FOCA gives you all the info on the flight. Also they used to listen to voice recorders in the old days, but heard nothing because pilots just popped the circuit breakers all the time.

Ah - Do you mean FOQA? Which by the way can give you quite a bit of information, just not what they pilot's were saying or doing. FOQA is also covered under confidentiality agreements.

 

[gunfyter]

The day this is voted in ... I think All Air traffic in the US should stop on that day....

I am in....

 

[quinnlake]

I absolutely agree. Unfortunately there are those in our profession for some reason or another refuse or are incapable of setting a high bar and allow whatever level of professionalism is convenient for them. With absolutely no regard to the image they portray or the responsibility they have to their passengers, crew and people on the ground, these pilots require a less autonomous means of regulation.

Triple seven-- As I am sure you would agree, so much of our job performance depends on the condition we come to work. Therefore, it seems we need cameras in our hotel rooms, homes, cars etc. As well as 24 hour monitoring of our phones. And psch evals every week at least, to make sure we are all in the proper mind set. Orwellian? Who will watch the watchers--