I.D. tags in skin

[densoo]

If I do this can I finally stop taking my laptop out of my bag every time I go through security?


Identity tags implanted under workers' skin
Tiny silicon chips work like an access card you can never lose
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Associated Press[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Updated: 7:11 p.m. ET Feb. 13, 2006[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]CINCINNATI - Tiny silicon chips were embedded into two workers who volunteered to help test the tagging technology at a surveillance equipment company, an official said Monday.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Mexico attorney general's office implanted the so-called RFIDs — for radio frequency identification chips — in some employees in 2004 to restrict access to secure areas. Implanting them in the workers at CityWatcher.com is believed to be the first use of the technology in living humans in the United States.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Sean Darks, chief executive of the company, also had one of the chips embedded.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"I have one," he said. "I'm not going to ask somebody to do something I wouldn't do myself. None of my employees are forced to get the chip to keep their job."[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The chips are the size of a grain of rice and a doctor embedded them in the forearm just under the surface of the skin, Darks said.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]They work "like an access card. There's a reader outside the door; you walk up to the reader, put your arm under it, and it opens the door," Darks said.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Darks said the implants don't enable CityWatcher.com to track employees' movements.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"It's a passive chip. It emits no signal whatsoever," Darks said. "It's the same thing as a keycard."[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]CityWatcher.com has contracts with six cities to provide cameras and Internet monitoring of high-crime areas, Darks said. The company is experimenting with the chips to identify workers with access to vaults where data and images are kept for police departments, he said.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The technology predates World War II, but has appeared in numerous modern adaptations, such as tracking pets, vehicles and commercial goods at warehouses.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]After Hurricane Katrina, as body counts mounted and missing-person reports multiplied, some morgue workers in Mississippi used the tiny computer chips to keep track of unidentified remains.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11331144/[/FONT]

 

[HalinTexas]

Over My Dead Body!

 

[dav8or]

Careful Big Brother is watching.

While we are at it why don't we get the FAA to sit in the JS on every flight.

 

[densoo]

Just like 401Ks, Health Accounts, and elderly drug programs...first it's a controversial idea, then it has some merit, then there is a test (just a test), then it becomes common and accepted, then it becomes necessary, then it becomes law. To prevent I.D. theft and save money, this will become inevitable to buy, sell, hold a job, get medical care.

 

[G550Driver]

Didn't I/we get told in Sunday school not to do this?

I'm really not into this at all.

 

[canyonblue]

Over My Dead Body!

The terrorists only need to cut off your arm to gain access, so you would not be killed, that's a plus.

 

[habubuaza]

Isn't this like the mark of the beast or something like that?

 

[Pseuodopod]

Revelation 13:16-18
16 He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17 so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.
18 This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.

Y'know, I'm not one to buy into cospiracy theories, nor the-end-is-coming hysteria or anything like that, but I'm really hesitant to mess around with this whole idea of planting chips or tags into my body. It seems too much like playing with fire to me. I've got enough problems. I don't need to go invoking the wrath of God upon myself.

 

[AMRCostUnit]

"[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]None of my employees are forced to get the chip to keep their job."[/FONT]

YET!

Unit

Revelation 13:17..."so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name."

 

[mnboyev]

Where can I get one..?? How much... Is it IPOD compatible ? Does it have Blue Tooth capability ? How many GB's ?

Anything to get rid of my dog collar ID badge wrapped around my neck every trip. Damn ID keeps dropping in my coffee. "Got any napkins or C-Folds?"

If 'they' are gonna pre clear pax... they should be able to pre clear the folks doing the driving.

 

[FN FAL]

Y'know, I'm not one to buy into cospiracy theories, nor the-end-is-coming hysteria or anything like that, but I'm really hesitant to mess around with this whole idea of planting chips or tags into my body. It seems too much like playing with fire to me. I've got enough problems. I don't need to go invoking the wrath of God upon myself.

In that case, we'll have to take extra special effort to make sure you get chip number 0000013.

 

[G4G5]

I find the Lojack suppository to be less invasive

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

All I can think of is the Anthrax shot and how it was forced down the military man's/woman's throat. "It's o.k., see General Goofball over here got the shot too! He is leading by example." Lying sack of *&*^%%$ in the military knew they had an experimental drug and even delivered a bad batch of serum and lied about it to keep the government from being liable.

BS

It is wrong and should be stamped out immediately or it will take years to do away with it. Otherwise you will eventually be tracked at every store, mall and building you enter.

 

[FN FAL]

It is wrong and should be stamped out immediately or it will take years to do away with it. Otherwise you will eventually be tracked at every store, mall and building you enter.

If you have nothing to hide, then what are your worries?

Muhahahahaaha :nuts:

 

[Chronic Jetlag]

If any of you have seen the movie Enemy of the State with Will Smiith, you'll never want to put anything in your body.

 

[SkiFishFly]

Just like 401Ks, Health Accounts, and elderly drug programs...first it's a controversial idea, then it has some merit, then there is a test (just a test), then it becomes common and accepted, then it becomes necessary, then it becomes law. To prevent I.D. theft and save money, this will become inevitable to buy, sell, hold a job, get medical care.

I don't think so. Most people won't go for it.

Also considering the small size of these things, "clean" ones will be available on the black market. If they always plant them in the same place on an individuals body, it would be very easy to kill someone, remove the chip, attach it to yourself and then go where you needed to go.
This technology is not as secure as people think it might be.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

"Badges, we don't need no stinking badges...Vamanos"

-Blazing Saddles

 

[densoo]

I don't think so. Most people won't go for it.

Also considering the small size of these things, "clean" ones will be available on the black market. If they always plant them in the same place on an individuals body, it would be very easy to kill someone, remove the chip, attach it to yourself and then go where you needed to go.
This technology is not as secure as people think it might be.

There will always be identity theft. Stealing a SSN to get someone's i.d. is one thing; killing someone for it is quite another. Fewer will kill (or maim) for a new i.d. than will steal for one. Whatever one's opinion, it is way too easy to steal someone's i.d. today. Somehow it needs to be made harder. The government could start by making it the default position that no one can see or open a line of credit on you unless you allow it, rather than the current default of anyone can see or open a line of credit unless you prohibit it. A few states allow to you to shut down your credit access, but most only allow this--and then for only a few months--if you have been a target of i.d. theft.

 

[FN FAL]

Houston Eyes Cameras at Apartment Complexes
By PAM EASTON
Associated Press Writer
HOUSTON (AP) -- Houston's police chief on Wednesday proposed placing surveillance cameras in apartment complexes, downtown streets, shopping malls and even private homes to fight crime during a shortage of police officers.

"I know a lot of people are concerned about Big Brother, but my response to that is, if you are not doing anything wrong, why should you worry about it?" Chief Harold Hurtt told reporters Wednesday at a regular briefing.

Houston is facing a severe police shortage because of too many retirements and too few recruits, and the city has absorbed 150,000 hurricane evacuees who are filling apartment complexes in crime-ridden neighborhoods. The City Council is considering a public safety tax to pay for more officers.

Building permits should require malls and large apartment complexes to install surveillance cameras, Hurtt said. And if a homeowner requires repeated police response, it is reasonable to require camera surveillance of the property, he said.

Scott Henson, director of the American Civil Liberties Union's Police Accountability Project in Texas, called Hurtt's building-permit proposal "radical and extreme" and said it may violate the Fourth Amendment's protections against unreasonable searches.

Andy Teas with the Houston Apartment Association said that although some would consider cameras an invasion of privacy, "I think a lot of people would appreciate the thought of extra eyes looking out for them."

Such cameras are costly, Houston Mayor Bill White said, "but on the other hand we spend an awful lot for patrol presence."

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