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Alin10123

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Just a quick hypothetical question that my instructor and i were discussing today. What would you guys do if upon touchdown while landing a big earthquake started right away. Would you full throttle it and get airborne again? Or would you try to set her down as quickly as possible and stop her as quickly as possible?

Also... often times earthquakes not only cause the ground to move side to side, they also move up and down which would create the updraft similar like in the summer time when the heat is radiating out of the ground. Would you feel the earthquake if you were in the air? How high would you feel it until?

This was just a random question that came up while talking with my instructor.
 
Alin10123 said:
Just a quick hypothetical question that my instructor and i were discussing today. What would you guys do if upon touchdown while landing a big earthquake started right away. Would you full throttle it and get airborne again? Or would you try to set her down as quickly as possible and stop her as quickly as possible?

Also... often times earthquakes not only cause the ground to move side to side, they also move up and down which would create the updraft similar like in the summer time when the heat is radiating out of the ground. Would you feel the earthquake if you were in the air? How high would you feel it until?

This was just a random question that came up while talking with my instructor.
If it was an earthquake that caused vampires or zomies to walk the earth, I'd say that a shotgun would be the most effective.
 
Alin10123 said:

It's all fun and games untill you're the other white meat.

What? You think FEMA is going to save your lilly white ass?
 
Yes. I would definitely grab me a fistfull O' boomstick.
 
Id say fly away if you had the fuel. How often are you gonna get to watch an earthquake from above? Then find a spot to put it down thats not too cracked or warped. After that, go get that plasma TV Ive always needed.
 
Alin10123 said:
Just a quick hypothetical question that my instructor and i were discussing today. What would you guys do if upon touchdown while landing a big earthquake started right away. Would you full throttle it and get airborne again? Or would you try to set her down as quickly as possible and stop her as quickly as possible?

Also... often times earthquakes not only cause the ground to move side to side, they also move up and down which would create the updraft similar like in the summer time when the heat is radiating out of the ground. Would you feel the earthquake if you were in the air? How high would you feel it until?

This was just a random question that came up while talking with my instructor.

You could ask some of the guys who had to deal with it in a non-hypothetical way...In the early 90's there was an earthquake out in CA during the World Series...I've talked to a couple of guys since who were in the takeoff or landing phase, and suddenly ended up "lost comm" because the tower people abandoned ship ;)

Unfortunately, that wasn't part of the discussion, but I would guess that if the ground heaving up caused a bounce, I would go around...if it didn't, I would probably stay on the ground simply because I probably have only an hour's fuel left on board to figure out what's going on and find an alternate landing site.

Fly safe!

David
 
Alin10123 said:
Just a quick hypothetical question that my instructor and i were discussing today....
If you and your instructor got so much time and energy on your hands, why don't you get down here and save these democrats on dis train?

Maybe you can fly down there and drop off some supplies?

Amtrak Passengers Stranded in Ga. Woods

SAVANNAH, Ga. (AP) -- A trainload of frustrated passengers has been stuck on an Amtrak train stranded in a patch of woods in south Georgia for more than 24 hours.

Amtrak Train 98 has been stalled near Georgia's border with Florida while engineers wait for a derailed CSX freight train to be removed.

Meanwhile, the train's passengers - including many cash-strapped families headed home from vacations - are getting frustrated.

"We're stuck in the woods," said Eleanor Meyer. "People have ran out of money buying food. This is unbelievable. You have to run to different cars because certain cars have run out of toilet paper."
 
FN FAL said:
If you and your instructor got so much time and energy on your hands, why don't you get down here and save these democrats on dis train?

Maybe you can fly down there and drop off some supplies?

It wasn't that we had so much time on our hands. We were on a cross country and the topic came up.
 
Alin10123 said:
It wasn't that we had so much time on our hands. We were on a cross country and the topic came up.
We'll, one thing's for sure...you won't know if they'll be looking to notify the Widow Jones, untill it happens.
 
FN FAL,

where did you find that Avatar. This my sound weird but I find myself watching CNN just to see video clips of the hot IDF chicks with UZIS, m-4'S, or whatever they might be carying that day. I dont know what it is about hot Israeli chicks with guns.
 
Wasn't one of those Airplane movies made with this exact scene in it? They touched down and then realized there was an earthquake and then took off again.

Oh how I love Hollywood.
 
Alin10123 said:
Just a quick hypothetical question that my instructor and i were discussing today. What would you guys do if upon touchdown while landing a big earthquake started right away. Would you full throttle it and get airborne again? Or would you try to set her down as quickly as possible and stop her as quickly as possible?

As a student you do not know better, but your instructor is a DORK! He should be teaching you flying not landing during tectonic plate movement.

Alin10123 said:
Also... often times earthquakes not only cause the ground to move side to side, they also move up and down which would create the updraft similar like in the summer time when the heat is radiating out of the ground. Would you feel the earthquake if you were in the air? How high would you feel it until?

This was just a random question that came up while talking with my instructor.

Run now! This instructor is a DORK! There are some things you simply cannot plan for, and an earthquake at the exact time of landing is one of them. RUN!!!!!!

P.S. Does this guy wear a flight suit and helmet during preflight?
 
Stifler's Mom said:
Wasn't one of those Airplane movies made with this exact scene in it? They touched down and then realized there was an earthquake and then took off again.

Oh how I love Hollywood.

I think I know what you're talking about.. late 80s movie or so.. plane was attempting to land somewhere in CA...
 
Grumman guy said:
FN FAL,

where did you find that Avatar. This my sound weird but I find myself watching CNN just to see video clips of the hot IDF chicks with UZIS, m-4'S, or whatever they might be carying that day. I dont know what it is about hot Israeli chicks with guns.
I think I got it right off of the UN's security website.

When ever I stumble across interesting photos, I right click and save them. It's kind of a dumb hobby, but I got a cd full of some interesting photos.
 
Is it my imagination, or was there a folding of the space time continuum?

I do remember writing those responses to a thread, but I don't remember writing them yesterday. Was there a merging of threads or is there a joke being played?

I don't mind jokes, but if someone has figured out my password, I need to do something about it.
 
the reply's I'm talking bout are the one about the zombies and the reply just after that one.

Changed the password as a precaution. But that was wierd.
 
I love pilots and their "what if...?" questions. I hear it almost every day at work.

Sometimes after some really off the wall "what if's" I like to respond with "what if a giant asteroid hits the planet and a giant tidal wave takes out your destination and you have an FAA observer on board and you have a sick passenger and you're min fuel and every airport is 1/4SM because of the big dust cloud from the asteroid and, and, and...."

What is it with you guys and "what if" scenarios?

I'm sure some smart a$$ is going to respond with an answer to all of of this sarcasm. I fully expect it here.
 
Wait a minute... I just saw the error of my last post that some pinhead would pick apart:

Why would there be a dust cloud if the asteroid hit the ocean and created a tidal wave?
 
My favorite thread right now...

A plane is standing on a runway that can move (some sort of band conveyer). The plane moves in one direction, while the conveyer moves in the opposite direction. This conveyer has a control system that tracks the plane speed and tunes the speed of the conveyer to be exactly the same (but in opposite direction).

The question is:

Will the plane take off or not? Will it be able to run up and take off?

WHO F*CKING CARES? THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY IS FALLING APART AND THERE'S 500+ POSTS/40 PAGES DEBATING THIS USELESS SUBJECT.
 
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Do you really think that an earthquake would cause an updraft? Yes, there can be the sensation of up and down movement/vibration if you are in contact with the ground (have experienced a few quakes; usually either rolling/wave-like or vertical sensation), but I don't think that would be the same as a summer thermal, which involves rising air, not moving ground.
 
You might have to check you jepps for revisions after an earthquake, maybe reset your clock...

Earthquake 'redraws the map'

The devastating earthquake that struck the Indian Ocean probably caused some islands to move by several metres.
The massive thrust of the tectonic plates may have heaved the Indian Ocean floor towards Indonesia by about 15m (50ft), seismologists think.
The movement is likely to have altered the geography of islands like Sumatra. The force of the earthquake was probably also so great that it made the Earth wobble on its axis and cut our day length by fractions of a second.
 
srjorion said:
As a student you do not know better, but your instructor is a DORK! He should be teaching you flying not landing during tectonic plate movement.



Run now! This instructor is a DORK! There are some things you simply cannot plan for, and an earthquake at the exact time of landing is one of them. RUN!!!!!!

P.S. Does this guy wear a flight suit and helmet during preflight?

He wasn't teaching it to me. It just sort of randomly came up. I guess maybe earlier that day i was in rush hour in a bridge and a tractor trailor blew by me and the thing shook. That's what brought the question up. I was just curious... that's all. He didn't bring anything like that up at all.
 
Alin10123 said:
He wasn't teaching it to me. It just sort of randomly came up. I guess maybe earlier that day i was in rush hour in a bridge and a tractor trailor blew by me and the thing shook. That's what brought the question up. I was just curious... that's all. He didn't bring anything like that up at all.
All joking aside, I can understand the curiosity, especially being a "doomsday" movie fan.

There's nothing wrong with asking, "What if?"
 
You probably wouldn't even connect it with an earthquake. I was sitting in my truck once at a stoplight when I lived in AK when an earthquake happened. It took a couple of seconds to figure out what it was, and it was only because they were common enough that I knew what it was. In an airplane, at touchdown, I don't think your first thought would be of an earthquake, I'd think it was more like a flat spot on the tire, or a crosswing or something. Another time I was in the pattern at Merrill when an earthquake happened. It was a slow night and the guys in the tower said something about it, up in the cab they definetly noticed it. It could happen though...http://www.tfhrc.gov/pubrds/03nov/05.htm

Go down to the Alaska Highway paragraph about the middle of the page
 
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