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Howard Dean is mental!

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Isn't anyone out there better than this fool???
Unfortunately ... no. :(

It's not so much that I think our Commander In Chief is not intelligent, but that he has surrounded himself with people who are DEFINITELY shady (Cheney), goofy (Rumsfeld), and scarey (Ashecroft)!

If Colin Powell ran for President in 2008 I'd switch parties to vote for him. But barring that, what choices are we gonna have in 2008? Hillary Clinton running against Dick Cheney. Another four years of greedy, self-serving, sleezy politics. Business as usual. :(
 
Wesley Clark is a Clinton place holder. If he gets the nomination, mark my words, the facts around his firing as NATO Chief will come out a week or two before the election, and destroy his campaign. I can tell you from what I know, it involves some bald face lying to his superiors. For Christ's sake it has to be bad if Bill Clinton fired him.

Kerry will never get elected. He has a past that will haunt the hell out of him. Proud veteran, my ass. Just do a Lexis/Nexus on John Kerry and Jane Fonda and let me know what you come up with. You may also want to know what V V A W is and whether Kerry was a member or not. Let us also make sure we all read his book, "The New Soldier". Kerry will implode the same way as Wesley if he is nominated.

The dems have decided to pass on 2004 so they can run the smartest woman in the world in 2008. And the witch and the liar are still pulling the strings at the DNC. So all you Democrats can go and rejoice that your heroes will be the exact reason you lose the White House this year.
 
Chas said:
Did any of you see Howard Dean Last night during the caucus . Is he mental or what I never saw such a crazed look on any politician in my life...
I don't know. Buchanan looked pretty Mansonesque in '92.

(Still haven't discovered punctuation, have you? :D )
 
The real reason Bush is so hated: He is Christian.


"Scary" ,"troubling", and other such words are used by the left to imply that religious people are not to be trusted. Atheists are just as culpable in man's inhumnity to man as religious zealots. You think Stalin would be a member of the religious right if he lived in the U.S. today? Hardly.

You also are not willing to grant that your LACK of religious conviction might be legitimately worrisome to me. Secularism has no 'divine' status as the higher intellectual plane of operations. Many of the world's great minds are religious people.

I don't go around calling you 'infidel', do I? Yet you call me an infidel to your 'religion' of secular humanism. See the double standard? I do. You cannot prove the nonexistence of God anymore than I can prove His existence. You cannot use the lack of proof of existence as the proof of nonexistence, though you may try. (For years it coul not be proved that the earth was not flat.)
 
B1900DFO-

Proof again that leftists can only point fingers, but can offer no real solutions. Listening to you guys is like watching Letterman:

Pure entertainment, but no intellectual nutrition.
 
Although I'm a Republican and would never vote for any of the emotionally charged idiots on the Dem side right now, I'm not so sure I want to vote GW in again. I admire his mission, I admire his conviction, I admire his people skills. However, I think he sucks at communication. To hire Don Rumsfeld as sec of defense is just an act of lunacy. Rumsfeld is about as people friendly as a marauding lion.

Howard Dean belongs in the gladiator arena to get rid of some of that aggression (or have his nuts cut off).
John Kerry belongs at the local VFW.
Joe Lieberman belongs at the insomnia institute (to help cure the disorder).
Gephardt is just plane doing the right thing by dropping out.
Sharpton, please. Any person on this board has more intelligence than that idiot. Race just isn't a worthy platform for a presidential race (even though he IS a flaming racist).

GW isn't very good with words, I'll give you that. However, the democrats should be ashamed of sending these idiots for us to decide on a president.
 
100LL... Again! said:
B1900DFO-

Proof again that leftists can only point fingers, but can offer no real solutions. Listening to you guys is like watching Letterman:

Pure entertainment, but no intellectual nutrition.

Rush Limbaugh, before he was a drug addict terrorist, was my hero.
 
Dean's speech

NPR reported that Howard Dean's speech Monday Night (on MLK's birthday) is being referred to as the:

"I Have a Scream" speech


got a good laugh out of that. I believe that his speech will scare off any moderate support he might have been able to muster
 
I've got to agree with everyone here on Dean's speech. Way over the top for a guy that finished 3rd.....Guess he felt he had to say something and went a little too far.

The democrats need to get their act together - and push out the clintonian types among them. I don't see myself voting democrat anytime soon, but I wish they would make my decision harder. They make it easier all the time. To little legitimate opposition, and some of the republicans are going to let it go to their heads.

I have to admit I don't agree with 100LL often on political issues but most of this is right on. The Dems need to get someone on the ticket that is as close to center as possible. I know Astra mentionedd that in one of his posts. I wonder if the people in Iowa started to realize that Dean just wouldn't beat Bush. He's just too liberal. Most of the Clinton campaign top aides by the way are in the Clark camp. I assume if Clark gets the nomination he'd be the first General since DDE to run for President. There may have been someone else, I'm not sure.


The dems are fractured right now. Hatred of Bush is not a platform. (Apologies to the crazies on this board).

I would also agree with this statement but the same could have been said for the GOP in 96.

I don't think Kerry is all so bad. Amazing that some would put down his Vietnam experience though. I wonder if anyone here really knows first-hand about what he did and whether he functioned in his role well. I think he was a platoon leader but I really don't know either. I don't think the Dems can win the White House with him unless they get Zell Miller on the ticket as VP. Need a southern influence to win.

I'm not from NC but John Edwards doesn't seem so bad. Conservative Democrat (it's all relative guys, relax!!), self made guy (even if it is as a lawyer), probably understands your typical American alot better than GW. Maybe that's not a pre-req to do a good job as President but I'd rather someone from modest means run the White House and not a silver spooner.

Today's "New York Times" reports a 10.6 percent increase in Medicare payment to HMOs being proposed by the Bush administration. In addition, the president is asking -- is expected to ask Congress to appropriate another $1 trillion for his so-called Social Security reform.
In addition, the president wants to spend another half trillion for going to Mars and the moon. This is, of course, on top of the $3 trillion in tax cuts for the wealthy, $400 billion in pharmaceutical subsidies, and $180 billion farm bill. When asked about taxpayers could afford all this, Bush said, the same way I afford everything. Daddy will pay for it.

Any idea when this guy will stop spending? I know alot of people believe deficits are not a big deal but it really ruined his father and wasn't his fault. When it comes time to pay these debts he's running up, the cost of floating debt on the market is really going to screw us. His father had to raise taxes, he had little choice. GW must be banking on another big ride like we had from 95-00 because there is no way to pay off that debt he's building without another huge run. I think whoever takes over in 2008 is really going to get screwed, Dem or GOP!!!!


Mr. I.
 
Yell Dean yell. :D :D What a dope.

I generally agree with Bush, although he has done a few things to make me mad. Why would you EVER grant illegals permission to work here? I have to admit that is pretty stupid. Nothing can convince me otherwise. Still, Bush is MUCH, MUCH better than any of the democrats. Logic really escaped those guys.
 
clark

I don't think that the record of Wesley Clark will be much worse than that of GWB. It's not as if GWB's past is very strong. Let's see...Failed oil tycoon, boozehound and drug addict, history of lying to a country, using war and terror for political gain (who else would STILL be trumpeting 9/11 as if it happened yesterday - I understand terrorist hate us, but are his policies REALLY helping that problem?), and propping up the USA PATRIOT Act as if it were the greatest thing since sliced bread. Oh yeah, GWB had a DUI. Real responsible.

Somehow I don't think that Wesley Clark's record in 35 years of military service and disagreements as a GENERAL (you can't get to that high of a rank without at least SOME integrity) will hurt him that much. Of course, they'll come into the campaign. The GOP would be stupid to not at least try to discredit him. However, the records have already been used in the Dems primary race. It's not as if if it's secret info. He has even acknowledged it and made it sound worse than it really was. Clinton staffers said they asked him to resign, Clark said he was fired. I guess I don't see this as info waiting in the wings...

GWB can trumpet poor showings in the past for the opposition. He's just lucky he's the incumbent and is basically innocent until proven guilty. He's NOT a good person and many people know it. He also has no interest in helping this country into the future. We're on a dangerous path here at home and he doesn't really seem to care.

What ever happened to fiscal conservatism, anyway? Curious...
 
Why I vote Republican

As a union member, the Democrats have much to offer. That's certainly an important part of my life. With that said, the parties' general social platform has pissed me off way to many times...

-Secularism: Let's see now, one of the national holiday where all federal workers get off work is CHRISTMAS. If you don't like the fact that this nation leans toward Christianity and has been that way since the beginning, then move to France; which by the way will most likely be lead by Muslims 20 years from now due to immigration and faint Christianity among the rest of the population. Gee and which party supports secularism. I can't think of a more important issue then God and our own existance.

-Morals: Alternative Lifestyles, think outside of the box, yadda, yadda, yadda...The liberal wing of the party is just so open to the idea of everyone should be free to express themselves, even if the you don't care for that. Case in point: Boy Scouts of America. Because BSA doesn't allow homosexuals, the liberals sue and sue and sue...

-Which leads us to lawyers and the ultimate despicable organization...the ACLU. This organization has supported child molestors and other sick and twisted people including other sex offenders. When someone commits such serious crimes, their rights for the rest of their lives should be terminated.

-And speaking of Serious consequences, I'll never understand the Lefts view that we can't execute the most evil people. If you don't want execution, then how about locking them in solitary confinement for the rest of the basterds life with just a faith based book of their chose. Oh, but that's cruel and unusual.

-Finally, we have affirmative action. A policy that is plain reverse discrimination. What's next? Every company has to hire at least one transsexual Communist Eskimo?

The best candidate of the bunch: Joe Lieberman. I'll take a faithful Jewish guy any day over the rest of the Secularism leaning Yahoos. Unfortunately his chance of winning is on par with Annika's chance of winning the Masters.
 
Somehow I don't think that Wesley Clark's record in 35 years of military service and disagreements as a GENERAL (you can't get to that high of a rank without at least SOME integrity) will hurt him that much. Of course, they'll come into the campaign. The GOP would be stupid to not at least try to discredit him.

He did it by stomping on his subordinates and spending all his time managing UP. It will be Clinton operatives that s h i t can his campaign, and not the GOP if he gets close to winning in the general election. The Dems do NOT want to win this election (and by dems I mean the DNC, McAulliffe and his crew). That means an incumbent would run in 2004 and not her majesty.
 
who else would STILL be trumpeting 9/11 as if it happened yesterday

I would be. It was only a little more than two years ago.
 
OK, now let me get this straight: Four years ago, Gore was criticized for being too robot like and not showing any emotion; now, Dean shows a little too much emotion in ONE speech and everyone jumps on him just for being human and non-robot-like?! C'mon...give me a break...:eek:
 
OK, now let me get this straight: Four years ago, Gore was criticized for being too robot like and not showing any emotion; now, Dean shows a little too much emotion in ONE speech and everyone jumps on him just for being human and non-robot-like?! C'mon...give me a break...

No, we're jumping on him for looking like he's gonna jump off the screen and bite our heads off. There's a happy medium between Gore's sleep-inducing rhetoric and Dean's just-plain scary behavior.
 
What are you talking about?

bart said:
Kerry will never get elected. He has a past that will haunt the hell out of him. Proud veteran, my ass. Just do a Lexis/Nexus on John Kerry and Jane Fonda and let me know what you come up with.

Since very few people subscribe to Lexis/Nexus, why don't you tell us why you mention John Kerry in the same sentence with Jane Fonda?

Is the purpose of this "guilt by association" angle because the two belonged to the same anti war organization?
 
Every politician has their good points and bad points but from what we've got to choose from in this next election, Bush is the best choice in my opinion. Like Bocephus said..."if the south woulda won we'da had it made."
 

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