How to say no

[CapnVegetto]

Makes sense....but good grief....if it were up to me, I'd WANT somebody with some experience in my right seat so when the blankety blank hits the fan, I've got someone that can make my job easier. 800 hours doesn't do that.

 

[Gearmunky]

easy fella, Im not slamming on you, Im slamming on your employer.

You took that job just as anyone else most likely would have at 800hrs -- BUT - there is always a catch to a job where an 800hr guy flys a GIV (not including shoe-ins like relatives, etc..) and the catch is that it is usually a sub-par weird outfit run by a little Napoleon. Thats all I was saying...Im not faulting you...If you dont check the female or minority box at 800 hrs -- you are a gear jerker for the fella who cant handle another qualified guy in the cockpit. How many GIVs fly around without TWO typed pilots?? $hit...

But I would either get the rating and run or look to build real time elsewhere. People like to see some PIC time - and if thats NOT in your future you should move on. IMHO.

If you can turn it into a rating and some real time, you're in a good spot. If not I personally think you may paint yourself into a corner as a professional SIC.

thats was all I meant, sorry if it came across wrong.

Well, in that case my apologies for coming off angry, its just that defending my credentials is becoming the norm for me and I don't treat people any differently than I would want to be treated. Where I'm from the Golden Rule still means something.

I totally agree with what your saying with the PIC thing. I'm supposed to get typed in November when I go for recurrent. As far as getting the job in the first place, I worked with Gulfstreams for a while before I got hired and my employer has a good relationship with our insurance company. I know of people with less time than me doing the same thing if you can believe it-for a pretty good company too. There isn't much that surprises me in corporate any more as far as flight times. Its all who you know, and your personality.

The last charter place I was working for had a thing with their insurance company that would let anyone fly in the right seat as long as they had current school, regardless of time. Getting them to pay for school though for an unqualified individual was hard part.

 

[G100driver]

Gotta ask, because this is sounding familar .... Did or are you working for Pacific Jet in VNY?

 

[HMR]

I'm supposed to get typed in November when I go for recurrent.

It seems like you've had this job for awhile. You're going to your first recurrent in November? How often do you guys go to school? I'm not knocking your TT but having an 800hr co-pilot who isn't in sim school at least every 6 months is sketchy. There are a lot of Gulfstream operators in my area (SoCal) and every single crewmember I'm aware of goes to school every 6 months. There's something strange about a GIV operator having an 800hr co-pilot and then skimping on school.

If the reason they hired you over other higher-time, better qual'ed pilots is because of an above-average personality, you shouldn't have trouble finding a better gig.

Gotta ask, because this is sounding familar .... Did or are you working for Pacific Jet in VNY?

Oh c'mon, there's no reason to insult Gearmunky.

 

[Gearmunky]

Negative on the PacJet thing. Wrong Coast, better fishin and duck huntin over here

I'd prefer not to into detail about where I came from or who I work for, this business is too small and me in writing and me in person are two different things, don't want to give anyone any false impressions on my personality. I think a couple of people have it figured out and I'd like to think that these types of issues are mutually respected.

I just went through recurrent before I came here, so that's when I'm up- in Nov.

 

[G100driver]

Gearman ... you just do not know where to duck (goose for me) and fishing on the left coast.

 

[Checks]

GearMunky,

I didnt mean to get your employer slammed. I really was just curious. I have plenty of PIC AMEL time with experience in King Airs and Metro's but with no JET time so I figured I wasnt even qualified to drop resumes at the local corp. flight departments. Now I might.