- Dec 29, 2007
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You want to know how one knows the VOR may be accurate? You're serious?Appears but how the hell are you supposed to know where other traffic is? Also what if the VOR is inaccurate I've shot VOR approaches with a half dot deflection and looked up and noticed the runway was 30 degrees off from my VOR.
Well...let's see...how about looking for it?Appears but how the hell are you supposed to know where other traffic is?
You've got to be kidding. The sun shade was held in place by the sun visors, and it is higher on the right side. General practice is to augment the safety pilot with observers to supplement his vision? Get your boots on the s#!t is getting deep.If the pilot flying can't see out, general practice is to provide a safety pilot. If the safety pilot doesn't have adequate visibility to see, general practice is to augment the safety pilot with observers to supplement his vision.
Was the video not shot by an observer, supplementing the ability of the safety pilot to see out of the aircraft?
Because light past the sunshade prevented the camera from showing a good picture of the view outside, and because the window shade or view limiting device only extended part way up the window, you have no idea how much forward visibility the individuals in the front seat, or rear seat had.
You're jumping to conclusions.
So what was the #2 Nav initially tuned to? Nothing? Always back up your nav instruments. If you had tuned and identified both nav radios initially you may have noticed you had a problem earlier.Ok heres where it gets good mr. brains while shooting the VOR 15 into KARR I noticed that while on the Final Approach Course of 150 and within a maximum dot deflection the whole time that the aircraft was continuosly off of course by 30 or so odd degrees. Well thinking to myself thats odd I decided to tune in my number 2 VOR to notice that I was infact off of course.
I said no such thing. Put words in your own mouth, not mine. And learn to read. This thread is not about me, it's about a topic you introduced, criticizing a flight operation in another country, under different regulations, in different airspace to our own. You make numerous conclusions you can't back up, and admit to some ridiculously poor airmanship in the process. Let's discuss that.Your saying you would do this with a student learning their instrument.
A safety pilot is an observer, not a controller. The person in the back seat need not be a pilot. You're obviously unfamiliar with this, and with the regulation in this country...so let's begin there. As the video is clearly not in the US, the regulation doesn't pertain...but you fly in the US, and you have very little exposure and very little experience, so we'll start with what you're *supposed* to know.Do you mean to tell me that its ok for someone in the backseat with no access to the controls to be a great safety pilot.
You see, while YOU might not understand the concept, the FAA certainly does, and provides for this in the regulation. This may be news to you.§ 91.109 Flight instruction; Simulated instrument flight and certain flight tests.
(b) No person may operate a civil aircraft in simulated instrument flight unless—
(1) The other control seat is occupied by a safety pilot who possesses at least a private pilot certificate with category and class ratings appropriate to the aircraft being flown.
(2) The safety pilot has adequate vision forward and to each side of the aircraft, or a competent observer in the aircraft adequately supplements the vision of the safety pilot; and
(3) Except in the case of lighter-than-air aircraft, that aircraft is equipped with fully functioning dual controls. However, simulated instrument flight may be conducted in a single-engine airplane, equipped with a single, functioning, throwover control wheel, in place of fixed, dual controls of the elevator and ailerons, when—
(i) The safety pilot has determined that the flight can be conducted safely; and
(ii) The person manipulating the controls has at least a private pilot certificate with appropriate category and class ratings.
One can't tell from the video, as much of the external view is obscured by light interfering with the camera. However, you assume that there's a need to look out, and you assume it's training and not being conducted under IFR, every bit as much as you assume they don't have adequate vision for their purposes.As evidenced from the video do you think he could respond fast enough and then the pic respond fast enough to steer clear of traffic in the vicinity.
How is this relevant, exactly? You really shouldn't guess what I'm saying; you do so poorly when it comes go guesswork and assumption. Again, I said no such thing...best putting words in your own mouth...not mine.30 day VOR check: so let me guess what your saying is the instrument can only fail on the 31st day? Or how about someone that isnt very knowledgeable at doing VOR checks? Is it possible that someone can ******************** that up?
Again with the poor airmanship. You really do sound like a future smoking grease spot on a hill side, somewhere.Ok heres where it gets good mr. brains while shooting the VOR 15 into KARR I noticed that while on the Final Approach Course of 150 and within a maximum dot deflection the whole time that the aircraft was continuosly off of course by 30 or so odd degrees. Well thinking to myself thats odd I decided to tune in my number 2 VOR to notice that I was infact off of course.
Perhaps you need a break.Gimme a break. That reg was not designed for some clown who decides to cover the entire windshield!
One should be adult enough to admit that there is not enough information presented in the video to do more than guess and assume; to which end you presently excell.These guys did something dumb and when we do dumb things we should be adult enough to admit it.