How much are you hoping for?

[pilotyip]

I have nothing against what the NJ piltos are asking for, I have just said, I would be happy making a $100K/yr. As a pilot who has spend many times "between jobs", I would be worried about upsetting the apple cart.

 

[Diesel]

It's that worry about upsetting the apple cart that keeps pay low. Too bad i don't care about upsetting the apple cart either pay or shut the place down. I'm the one driving it.

 

[G4dude]

I would submit that the free market does not care what we believe adequate pay is. The market is utterly rational, and is affected by miriads of factors, uncluding number of pilots willing to work for whatever pay, availability of other jobs, quality of life in these jobs, state of the ecomomy, supply of owners, price and quantity of competion, and many other factors. Once again, the market does not care what we think our pay ought to be. If unions push pay too high through coercion, the company goes out of business. Look at the Legacy carriers.

 

[pilotyip]

G4dude, that is right you can not turn a pig's ear into a silk purse. Is a $90K flying airplanes better than a $35K job in the plumbing dept at Home Depot? I have a lot ex Navy friends who did the EAL, Braniff, etc. Went from $100K per year to $35K driving a bread truck route.

 

[miles otoole]

I would submit that the free market does not care what we believe adequate pay is. The market is utterly rational, and is affected by miriads of factors, uncluding number of pilots willing to work for whatever pay, availability of other jobs, quality of life in these jobs, state of the ecomomy, supply of owners, price and quantity of competion, and many other factors. Once again, the market does not care what we think our pay ought to be. If unions push pay too high through coercion, the company goes out of business. Look at the Legacy carriers.

I personally very much agree with the first 80% of your post. In today's world, it's the supply of qualified labor combined with competition which will significantly squeeze labor rates.
I don't necessarily agree with the fact that high labor rates forced the legacy carriers into the financial shape they are currently in, however.

 

[Checks]

While I agree that 100K is a sweet salary, 28K is just foolish. Then again, those guys, like the regional guys knew that going in. Notice I dont work at either because of the lousy pay. Maybe if more pilots decided not to work for those wages the wages might actually increase. Just a thought.

 

[brokea$$pilot]

i dont think military pilots earn much higher than the regional airline pilots but ofcourse your not in the military to make a bundle of money right? the only benefit i see is that you DO have a real pension flying in the military vs. a regional. over 30 years i think you would still do better financially at one of the better regionals. $25-115,000yr

 

[G4dude]

While I agree that 100K is a sweet salary, 28K is just foolish. Then again, those guys, like the regional guys knew that going in. Notice I dont work at either because of the lousy pay. Maybe if more pilots decided not to work for those wages the wages might actually increase. Just a thought.

I agree with the thrust of your comments. However, 28K is not foolish if someone is willing to work for that amount. The marketplace is not emotional, just ruthlessly rational. If nobody wants to fly for 28K, pay will go up. Period. G4dude has spoken.
Just remember, my opinions are subject to frequent ridicule, and rightfully so, but they belong to me!

 

[buttercup]

I agree with the thrust of your comments. However, 28K is not foolish if someone is willing to work for that amount. The marketplace is not emotional, just ruthlessly rational. If nobody wants to fly for 28K, pay will go up. Period. G4dude has spoken.
Just remember, my opinions are subject to frequent ridicule, and rightfully so, but they belong to me!

If you people think 100k is a good salary I feel sorry for you.. I made 100k in the past two months. Some of you self-worthless freaks need a dose of reality

 

[El Chupacabra]

If you people think 100k is a good salary I feel sorry for you.. I made 100k in the past two months. Some of you self-worthless freaks need a dose of reality

Yeah but how long do you think that card-counting in Atlantic City is going to fly?