How much am I worth

[Publishers]

The thing that no one is bringing up is that with this fleet, the owner has more than one pilot. What are the other pilots like, what is there record been, do they get reasonable compensation, how are they treated, have they stayed there awhile, etc...???
This could be a great deal for you or a lousy one. You mentioned you were low on turbine time but we do not have enough information on the rest of your background??

 

[aussiefly]

Depends how the long the upgrade is and whether you are going to be the gopher boy as well. IMHO thats pretty darn low pay for being qual'd in 3 types.

 

[Freight Dog]

T-1... I don't know about you, but I simply don't care what the cost of training is. It makes no difference to me whatsoever. That is the cost of doing business. If the owner cannot afford to pay that, he has no business owning those airplanes.

 

[T-1GUY]

Freight Dog,

I agree that the pay is not up to par. However, if the owner pays for the training, and you accept the training, you will now have some leverage over your salary. Furthermore, if you decide to walk away after a few months, you will now have more qualifications that can help make you competitive for a higher paying job. If the owner doesnt want you to leave, you could always ask him to pay you what you are now worth.

Dont get me wrong, I think the salary sucks....But I also realize that this profession has a certain "whore yourself out" mentality.

Its a dog eat dog world and I would love to see owners like this go away... I have lost more than one job offer from an owner who couldnt pay NBAA salaries, but could drop $15,000 a night at the blackjack tables.

I say get the training, ask for more pay, and if the owner wont budge, WALK!!!

 

[Way2Broke]

Are they typing you?

 

[Publishers]

Freight Dog may know more people than I do but it seems to me that depending on the answers to the questions I posed above, this may be an opportuniity. Frankly there has only been one pilot that I have come across in the last three years that we felt storngly enough about to hire and immediately pay for training

 

[Freight Dog]

So Publishers, do you require your applicants to pay for their own training?

 

[siucavflight]

I say suck it up for a year. The cost of training you in three airplanes would cost you over $50,000 if you were to pay for this yourself. Go to training, work hard, get typed, get 1 year of experience under your belt.

Here is the thing, the training woudl not have cost him anything he gave me the book, told me to study and fly a lot of what he was claiming to be "91" trips with him and then send me to the FSDO in New york for a check ride, so the cost to him would have been minimal.

 

[T-1GUY]

Wow,

Sounds like a cheap bastard.... That said, I say Runaway!!!!

 

[G100driver]

Here is the thing, the training woudl not have cost him anything he gave me the book, told me to study and fly a lot of what he was claiming to be "91" trips with him and then send me to the FSDO in New york for a check ride, so the cost to him would have been minimal.

Run Forrest ... RUN!!!!!!

This is NOT the way to train pilots.

This owner has a serious moral delima. Not only is he cheating you, but almost or perhaps more importantly, he is cheating his clients.

Somehow, this practice of inhouse training must be put to an end. It is un-ethical.