How many resumes have you sent out?

[labbats]

Scary...

 

[BoDEAN]

For Ohio, select "Address" and put in "OH" or "OHIO" to the left of the Search button. Also, you can click on "Great Lakes" region and that will narrow down the geographic area. Hit the green-blue Search button and it will give you company names, FAR parts the company is certificated under, and aircraft types they fly.

Now, for narrowing down on aircraft types, click on "Advanced Search". Say, you are looking for LearJet operators. You should put in "LR-" next to "Aircraft Type:". For Lear 60, put in LR-60. Aircraft Type is a link and shows you all types that you could put in.

Yes, this is pay to use. For free, you can get names of places and more... Members get addresses, phone numbers, incident and accident record of the operator and lots more - exactly the information you want to know if you were to get on with the company. Just look under "Sample Certificate Page".

Thanks for looking

What is this "paypal discount code?"

 

[135Jobs]

What is this "paypal discount code?"

There is "Discount Code".

Use "FLINFO" as discount code through Monday, August 25 and get the initial 3 months for $14.95

 

[rettofly]

Try www.135jobs.com - it has all 135, 121 and other companies with wealth of information about them.

Here's another link that might be useful:

http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/acmain.htm

I haven't found a job off this, but I sure found a lot of places to send my resume. The problem with sending unsolicited resumes is that most of them end up in the round file, especially if you don't have a CP or DO name to put into the address. Nevertheless.. it's another entry point.

 

[Timebuilder]

I probably had 100 resumes out there easily.

Now that I am shifting gears, I am approaching 100 resumes/headshots/CD demo reels just since August 03. I will probably hit 200 by March 04.

Marketing...

 

[captxxx]

Shotgun Resumes

Best Advice: 1)

DON'T GET INTO AVIATION INDUSTRY!
2)If you have fly-start early 17-21, buy a used R.V. before getting your instrument or M.E. to trace around the country looking for work.
3) Have your Bachelor's degree( in something-Underwater Basketweaving ) or Military Aviation flight background(officer level) or A&P &/or CFI-AI/MEI; or have daddy or mommy funnel megabucks for at least 5 years or have a parent who is a airline pilot(with travel privileges)or corporate or charter pilot get you an IN.
4)Prepare for furloughs, unscrupulous and/or bankrupt operators; putting your family second; oddball hours; and getting treated like excrement by rampies, management, fbos, and almost everyone else inside the industry for unbelievablely little remuneration in dollars.
5) Walk resume in person(review to No. 2 about R.V.) you get roughly a 15% response with interview as opposed to shotgun faxes/mailings/email-3% response and roughly a 5% response with phone(COLD CALLS) and target the top 25 companies in areas you would not mind spending 3 to 5 years at...and when all else fails( including PRAYER )fails refer to No.1!

 

[EMBpilot]

I applied with 1157 compamies.
2 sent me their application paperwork.
1 (not one of them) called for the interview.

Hired Feb. 2003

Good luck to all

 

[bafanguy]

for all you guys under 1000 hours looking for a job, how many resumes have you sent out? I just sent out about 70, and the "sorry, no openings" are starting to come in

sigh

Scuba,

You actually got REPLIES !!!?? You're doing a lot better than I.

 

[saviboy]

Should we send applications via snail mail or email or fax?

 

[Tinstaafl]

In recent years I made a simple M$ Access database to track contact details, min. requirements for CA & FO, when first & most recently contacted & how, stages of application process from 'never contacted' to 'hired', comments, region, type of ops & class of aircraft etc. It can be sorted & filtered & in conjunction with Word I can export the appropriate bits to a mail merged personalised form letter & envelope address. Before that I used DOS Wordperfect 5.1 & mail merge to generate form letters & print envelopes from a WP database.

I've not bothered to count how many resumes I've sent over the years in Oz, Europe & now that I've moved here, have recently started on the US. I don't count the replies I received, just note whether the current pile has become thick enough to warrant starting a new one. I keep all replies as a way of determining who the latest contact person is etc. Most times no reply but those I received are valuable for the information one can glean from the letterhead & signature block.

 

[bobbysamd]

Sending resumes

Should we send applications via snail mail or email or fax?

At the outset, I will say that I am old-school. I believe in mailing resumes only, and here's why.

I don't believe in faxing resumes. Most people take great pains in preparing a nice, professionally-appearing, perfect document, or have a professional resume writer prepare it. As someone who looks at bunches of faxes regularly, I can tell you that something gets lost in the transmission. While it can convey the information you want, it just does not look as nice, fresh and professional as a resume and cover letter printed on nice paper stock. Aside from that, your flight time numbers can be smeared in the fax. That can be significant because many H.R.'s scan resumes into databases.

I believe that e-mailing resumes can be unproductive for two reasons: (1) H.R. is spammed with resumes. Yours may never be opened; (2) Your resume format, be it Word or WordPerfect, may be incompatible with H.R.'s word processor, so it might not be able to be opened.

I say mail in your resume. If you are in a rush, overnight it.

Now, having said all that, follow the company's instructions. Part of the interview process is evaluating your ability to follow directions. Therefore, despite everything I've just written, if the company instructs you to fax or e-mail your resume and not mail it, do what it instructs. If you e-mail it, try to determine which word processor format the company wants.

Good luck with your job search.

 

[saviboy]

thanks for the reply

At the outset, I will say that I am old-school. I believe in mailing resumes only, and here's why.

I don't believe in faxing resumes. Most people take great pains in preparing a nice, professionally-appearing, perfect document, or have a professional resume writer prepare it. As someone who looks at bunches of faxes regularly, I can tell you that something gets lost in the transmission. While it can convey the information you want, it just does not look as nice, fresh and professional as a resume and cover letter printed on nice paper stock. Aside from that, your flight time numbers can be smeared in the fax. That can be significant because many H.R.'s scan resumes into databases.

I believe that e-mailing resumes can be unproductive for two reasons: (1) H.R. is spammed with resumes. Yours may never be opened; (2) Your resume format, be it Word or WordPerfect, may be incompatible with H.R.'s word processor, so it might not be able to be opened.

I say mail in your resume. If you are in a rush, overnight it.

Now, having said all that, follow the company's instructions. Part of the interview process is evaluating your ability to follow directions. Therefore, despite everything I've just written, if the company instructs you to fax or e-mail your resume and not mail it, do what it instructs. If you e-mail it, try to determine which word precessor format the company wants.

Good luck with your job search.

 

[Resume Writer]

Now, having said all that, follow the company's instructions. Part of the interview process is evaluating your ability to follow directions. Therefore, despite everything I've just written, if the company instructs you to fax or e-mail your resume and not mail it, do what it instructs. If you e-mail it, try to determine which word precessor format the company wants.

Good luck with your job search.

Bobby,

This part of your post is right on the money. You must do what the employer instructs you to do. Most companies are using MS Word, so that format is pretty standard.

I will say this. If you are sending a resume in via email, and the ad asks for a resume "embedded" into the email, it needs to be in a text format. If you simply drop a MS Word or WordPerfect resume into an email, it will mess up the formatting and the HR person will not take the time to even read the jumbled mess.

Also, if you are responding to an online application that asks you to copy your resume into their online form, you must also have a text formatted resume.

The way to avoid "spamming" the company is to put the position title in the subject line of the email.

Kathy

 

[JediNein]

Another resurrected thread.... Anyways, walking resumes in does work, at least for interviews. I'm 5 for 5.

Fly SAFE!
Jedi Nein

 

[JetBlast2000]

At the outset, I will say that I am old-school. I believe in mailing resumes only, and here's why.

I don't believe in faxing resumes. Most people take great pains in preparing a nice, professionally-appearing, perfect document, or have a professional resume writer prepare it. As someone who looks at bunches of faxes regularly, I can tell you that something gets lost in the transmission. While it can convey the information you want, it just does not look as nice, fresh and professional as a resume and cover letter printed on nice paper stock. Aside from that, your flight time numbers can be smeared in the fax. That can be significant because many H.R.'s scan resumes into databases.

I believe that e-mailing resumes can be unproductive for two reasons: (1) H.R. is spammed with resumes. Yours may never be opened; (2) Your resume format, be it Word or WordPerfect, may be incompatible with H.R.'s word processor, so it might not be able to be opened.

I say mail in your resume. If you are in a rush, overnight it.

Now, having said all that, follow the company's instructions. Part of the interview process is evaluating your ability to follow directions. Therefore, despite everything I've just written, if the company instructs you to fax or e-mail your resume and not mail it, do what it instructs. If you e-mail it, try to determine which word processor format the company wants.

Good luck with your job search.

Get the resume there however you can. When I was looking I was sending out 50+ resumes a month. So to snail mail that many is very difficult. In addition, if you get some of those monthly newsletters, most only give fax numbers. Most companies with web pages will take an e-mail. It’s a numbers game. The more you can send out the better. For me, that 50 included e-mail, fax and some snail mail. It took me about 6 months before I got a good 135 gig.

 

[SlamClicker]

I have 13 resumes mailed/emailed and/or 7 online app's completed. I have three that are in need of a follow up and two more possibles that need a resume' or an app. I had two good leads by word of mouth, one resulted in a interview request by the chief pilot (FO on a KingAir B200), I passed it up. I have a real good response from a regional and with luck I will have an interview the second week of January.
I just keep everything written down on a legal pad.
I feel like Aviationinterviews.com is a good indicator of who is hiring at the regional level (and some 135 operators) but, like someone wrote in another discussion the real hiring is'nt going to begin until after the first of the year. You have nine days to get those resume's out. Hurry!

 

[Sandhawk]

When I got laid off a couple of years ago from a corporate gig (looking for another corporate/charter jet gig), I mailed out 250+ resumes, faxed about 100, and hand delivered another 30. I'm still getting calls over 2 years later from some of those companies.....

"Um, we have your resume on our desk and were wondering if you were interested in flying night freight in our Lear 24" Hahahahahahahaha, Click!

 

[hawkerflyer]

Zero. Everybody wants me...

 

[coolyokeluke]

I tried emailing, faxing, mailing, filling in on-line applications, cold-calling, and networking. I was feeling lucky when I was at least acknowleged by a rejection letter. So I hit the road looking for a job in a place I'd like to live in. I went to every aviation company in the city, and did everything I could to get past the secrataries who are there to protect the chief pilots from resume submittals. It took repeated visits or hanging out in the lobby for an ambush around closing time. Did I feel obnoxious? Yeah, but I got a job. One guy kept bringing in donuts every week with his resume, and they eventually caved in and hired him.

 

[Masterplan]

I have over 4000 hours 135 PIC multi multiple jobs no accidents and a college degree with a proffesionaly written resume and I can't get ANYBODY to call me. F%$k the Airlines