How is Life at ATI?

[FastHap]

It's currently in ILN having some avionics upgraded. ....Our second airplane was delayed by 45-60 days, meaning it should be out of the barn maybe Sept or so. There were stories of at least two more aircraft, plus some possibilities of two more which either are currently or soon will be farmed out to Cargo Jet. There was talk of us operating them, but I don't see it happening, at least not soon.

I saw the 2 Cargo Jet 767's in the hangars in Wilmington, that sure is a pretty paint job, but I really hate to see them dry leased. I also saw what I'm guessing is the first ATI 767 in Wilmington, also a very smart looking paint job. There was a second obviously ex-AA bird in the hangar, which I'm guessing is also for ATI. But with CAM allegedly calling the shots, who knows. Things are far from certain under the ATSG umbrella.

Is it true that one CAM 767 airframe was destroyed in Italy during the modification process?

 

[b707guy]

Is it true that one CAM 767 airframe was destroyed in Italy during the modification process?

I don't know if it's been destroyed, but it seems to be out of commission for a while. My understanding is that the work was begun under questionable authority. I don't think that it was necessarily done improperly, but just out of order from how it "should" have been done from a regulatory standpoint. So now it's wrapped up in administrivial purgatory.

I haven't seen the CargoJet aircraft, but if it's like their 727s, they should look pretty nice, too. Ours sat on the ramp in TOL for a little while for mx fam and I guess to sit there and look good, which it did quite well. Didn't get a chance to see it from the inside, though.

 

[Colonel Savage]

Do you guys see this ATSG situation as being in your favor or the opposite?

 

[l8fr82hub]

ATI was in a precarious position before the acquisition and at first it seemed like a good thing, but now I'm concerned the DHL debacle may drag us down too.

 

[PHXFLYR]

Here's hoping it doesn't.


PHXFLYR

 

[b707guy]

Here's hoping it doesn't.
PHXFLYR

Amen to that. Here's the opinion of a sluggo line pilot. CHI and Peter Fox didn't do us any favors as employees or as crewmembers. He may have helped keep us around, however, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt as a business owner (him, not me...). CHI was also a privately held company, so we had no clue where all the dollars went. We made money hand over fist, but they could have easily shut us down after pocketing all that cash, whenever they decided they made enough. Overall, we're doing quite well. So we were and are never "going under". If we do go under at some point, it's because the rug has been pulled from under our feet, which is what ATSG appears to be trying to do or at least letting happen to ABX Air. Astar is on their own in this matter as far as ATSG goes, but both airlines, as well as Cappy and us will be affected. How remains to be seen. But to answer the question, I think this will be good for us as a company in the long run. At the same time, I have no idea if it will be good for my peers and for my family.

 

[freighterguy]

Long run???

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't BAX Global now a part of TNT?

FG

 

[b707guy]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't BAX Global now a part of TNT?

FG

Don't know where you got that one. BAX Global is part of Schenker/Deutche Bahn. TNT is entirely separate.

 

[DC-8_FR8]

I saw the 2 Cargo Jet 767's in the hangars in Wilmington, that sure is a pretty paint job, but I really hate to see them dry leased. I also saw what I'm guessing is the first ATI 767 in Wilmington, also a very smart looking paint job. There was a second obviously ex-AA bird in the hangar, which I'm guessing is also for ATI. But with CAM allegedly calling the shots, who knows. Things are far from certain under the ATSG umbrella.

Is it true that one CAM 767 airframe was destroyed in Italy during the modification process?

The second ex-AA airplane is the one from Italy. Following Boeing test flights, it should be in service in December.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

Isn't UPS trying to purchase TNT right now?

cliff
GRB

 

[b707guy]

The second ex-AA airplane is the one from Italy. Following Boeing test flights, it should be in service in December.

In the immortal words of Johnny Carson, "I did not know that!". Glad to hear it's not FUBAR.

 

[erichartmann]

The ailerons are hydraulically powered too. Though it doesn't seem like it.

You'll know the difference if you ever have to fly it with no hyd boost.

 

[hvydriver]

You'll know the difference if you ever have to fly it with no hyd boost.

True that Eric. LOL!

 

[JetMidway]

Have they started the proving runs for the 76 yet?

 

[b707guy]

No, but they should be getting started pretty soon. A few weeks, anyway...