How easy will Go-Jet(s) pilots have it?

[siucavflight]

When they start flying will they be verbally assaulted at airports, will ATC delay them as much as possible? Will the public be able to find out what a bunch of rats this operation is?

I get angry because I am ready to step out of flight instructor and go to a regional, I look at their pay and am a little dissappointed that my first year will pay me less than half of what I get at as a flight instructor, then I see the reason why, you got these guys that go and work for *************************s undercutting everyone they can and lowering the industries wages. God I am pissed.

 

[FN FAL]

When they start flying...will ATC delay them as much as possible? Will the public be able to find out what a bunch of rats this operation is?

Why would the government interfere with a legitimate business operation?

Why would the public care?

 

[landlover]

When they start flying will they be verbally assaulted at airports, will ATC delay them as much as possible? Will the public be able to find out what a bunch of rats this operation is?

I get angry because I am ready to step out of flight instructor and go to a regional, I look at their pay and am a little dissappointed that my first year will pay me less than half of what I get at as a flight instructor, then I see the reason why, you got these guys that go and work for *************************s undercutting everyone they can and lowering the industries wages. God I am pissed.

ATC delaying as much as possible?? are you f-ing crazy? Controllers don't have a dog in this fight. The general public doesnt give a hoot, all they want is the cheapest ticket from point A to point B. Pilot's undercutting each other isn't new. Started long before g0 jets.

 

[siucavflight]

ATC delaying as much as possible?? are you f-ing crazy? Controllers don't have a dog in this fight. The general public doesnt give a hoot, all they want is the cheapest ticket from point A to point B. Pilot's undercutting each other isn't new. Started long before g0 jets.

I didnt know, that is why I asked, I have two very good friends that work ATC, one at ZAU, and the other ZKC and they have both already said that they are going to delay them as much as possible(both have friends at regionals). So that is why I am asking.

 

[User546]

I have to confess I'm ignorant of this whole GO-Jet(s) situation. What is it that they have done, or goign to do, that everyone is so down on them about?

Enlighten me with some education...

 

[FN FAL]

I didnt know, that is why I asked, I have two very good friends that work ATC, one at ZAU, and the other ZKC and they have both already said that they are going to delay them as much as possible(both have friends at regionals). So that is why I am asking.

Your friends won't have jobs very long if gayjets management gets to proving it.

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[landlover]

I didnt know, that is why I asked, I have two very good friends that work ATC, one at ZAU, and the other ZKC and they have both already said that they are going to delay them as much as possible(both have friends at regionals). So that is why I am asking.

I'm calling flame on this post. I know quite a few controllers, some real top dogs too, they would never do something so stupid. Most controllers don't even get involved/pay attention to airline politics. Let alone something as complicated as g0jets.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

I didnt know, that is why I asked, I have two very good friends that work ATC, one at ZAU, and the other ZKC and they have both already said that they are going to delay them as much as possible(both have friends at regionals). So that is why I am asking.

As Center controllers, how exactly are they planning to delay them without it being obvious? Put them in a random holding pattern?

 

[mar]

"...I was on the landline, say again..."

I'm not suggesting a controller would ever do this, but we've all got the "...sorry, no flight plan on file, please contact Flight Service..." before.

Aaarrrgghh.

 

[FN FAL]

I'm not suggesting a controller would ever do this, but we've all got the "...sorry, no flight plan on file, please contact Flight Service..." before.

Aaarrrgghh.

Those types of things are easy to prove or disprove.