How does Virgin make a profit on $39 fare???

[Ralph Cramden]

WOOT! We made it to the majors board again!

I just love it when the bashers cry about VA on the majors board, but if anybody asks for interview gouge the "why is this on the majors board" comments fly.

I also love the "Branson is buying all the seats" theory. If so, he is also paying the airport bums to shuffle around the country. Unless he is going to some publicity party the man is tight with his bucks, so don't bet your rent on that theory.

From the third quarter press release load factor was 86.6%. I just checked our internal stats for the Christmas rush, and while I won't repeat them here, they were very high. I commute online and see the flight deck view much more than the cabin view lately.

Yes, the black shirts are goofy (but I love no tie) and we all need a raise, but we are hiring. Interview gouge available online

 

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Charge $20.00 per bag. $8.00 per snack. $2.00 per pop. $5.00 per pillow and blanket......etc.etc.

 

[slavenaway]

Charge $20.00 per bag. $8.00 per snack. $2.00 per pop. $5.00 per pillow and blanket......etc.etc.

We all know that you can't believe everything you see on Al Gore's internet but it is another thing to spread lies. I implore you to be a little more accurate than this.

 

[Tomct]

Charge $20.00 per bag. $8.00 per snack. $2.00 per pop. $5.00 per pillow and blanket......etc.etc.

No charge for pop and the blanket is NEW! What a concept! AA has placards in their pax lines showing how much for the 1st-4th bags, but nothing bad is EVER said about them. We will continue to take the extra revenue the bag charge is generating...like everyone else in the industry...except SWA. It is quite funny how there are so many bashers and yet....most of you want a ride home! LOL Pretty sad.


Click...you will be eating your words in the next couple of years! We are only going to grow and continue to take the flying experience to the next level, but hey...hope you like where you work.


Hope everyone has a Happy Holiday Season out there... and if you need a ride home, we are happy to help ya'll out! Even the AK guys...LOL

 

[clickclickboom]

WOOT! We made it to the majors board again!

I just love it when the bashers cry about VA on the majors board, but if anybody asks for interview gouge the "why is this on the majors board" comments fly.

I also love the "Branson is buying all the seats" theory. If so, he is also paying the airport bums to shuffle around the country. Unless he is going to some publicity party the man is tight with his bucks, so don't bet your rent on that theory.

From the third quarter press release load factor was 86.6%. I just checked our internal stats for the Christmas rush, and while I won't repeat them here, they were very high. I commute online and see the flight deck view much more than the cabin view lately.

Yes, the black shirts are goofy (but I love no tie) and we all need a raise, but we are hiring. Interview gouge available online

Ralph i am just picking on you.......

 

[Ralph Cramden]

Ralph i am just picking on you.......

No worries Click. So long as I am riding the last elephant!

 

[Captain X]

RASM - CASM = PROFIT or (LOSS)?

It's not rocket surgery, folks.

Sincerely,

B. Franklin

But it is sort of brain science.

 

[J.Otto]

Profit? Its an airline, they don't make profits.

The debt they run with practically makes it a ponzi scheme... theres never a profit... constanlty in debt

 

[C-150ETOPS]

No charge for pop and the blanket is NEW! What a concept! AA has placards in their pax lines showing how much for the 1st-4th bags, but nothing bad is EVER said about them. We will continue to take the extra revenue the bag charge is generating...like everyone else in the industry...except SWA. It is quite funny how there are so many bashers and yet....most of you want a ride home! LOL Pretty sad.


Click...you will be eating your words in the next couple of years! We are only going to grow and continue to take the flying experience to the next level, but hey...hope you like where you work.


Hope everyone has a Happy Holiday Season out there... and if you need a ride home, we are happy to help ya'll out! Even the AK guys...LOL

Classic example why union carriers shouldn't subsidize non-union pilot groups like VA with free transportation when they don't pay their pilots enough to live near the base.

My idea is that as soon as a non union pilot group goes above 300 pilots, they have 3 years to organize and certify a pilot union. If not, every union carrier cancels their jumpseat agfreement with them.

Get a union or get lost.

 

[tzskipper]

Classic example why union carriers shouldn't subsidize non-union pilot groups like VA with free transportation when they don't pay their pilots enough to live near the base.

My idea is that as soon as a non union pilot group goes above 300 pilots, they have 3 years to organize and certify a pilot union. If not, every union carrier cancels their jumpseat agfreement with them.

Get a union or get lost.

Yeah. ALPA has done a helluva good job trying to bring the VA pilots on board... You know, what with siding with the DOT (with nothing more substantial than a Wall Street article supporting their position) in attempt to put those same pilots on the street (particularly since a vast majority were ALPA members for 10 years+). Nothing like a good kick in the nutz to make a person want to pay more dues.

Is it that f'n hard to offer support to any VA pilot efforts to organize, or is it that much easier to just sit on the sidelines and bitch?

Happy New Year.

S

 

[rigger]

Classic example why union carriers shouldn't subsidize non-union pilot groups like VA with free transportation when they don't pay their pilots enough to live near the base.

My idea is that as soon as a non union pilot group goes above 300 pilots, they have 3 years to organize and certify a pilot union. If not, every union carrier cancels their jumpseat agfreement with them.

Get a union or get lost.

It's interesting in these times of "BIGGER" government and an administration really on the side of Union that the union lovers have not changed the tactics of being HEAVY HANDED THUGS and sold the union on the MERITS of the union. The flight deck is just as safe with a union guy up front as a non union guy (unless of course the union guy want to beat up the non union guy!) that is the reason for the JS still whether we like it or not. Perhaps a Union is not needed at Virgin yet this is a good thing! Employees will have more money for how much it costs in SFO, the Company will spend less this will create more opportunities for the company and it's employees. Perhaps Virgin is going to show the model of a NON union shop in the airline world can work???? Perhaps not! But since we are in a free market and not in the new world order the progressives are spewing why not back your UNION at YOUR company C-150 and volunteer at your UNION and make it stronger and better and come on here and change the minds of the guys/gals that have not seen how a union can be all things to everyone!
If the VA guys need a union there will be plenty around to help....but if the have CHOSEN to fly alone right now that is still the choice they have! How about welcoming them o your JS and explaing to them the merits of what your UNION has done for you and your company! By being a heavy handed THUG your are propagating the myth of Unions being past it's time of usefulness in america. 45% of Americans veiw unions as making our country weaker, while 26% say they do make America stronger.....TRY to overcome this discrepancy and then you will have more unions overcome this C not make it more real! AND NEVER USE THE JS AS A TOOL OF DESTRUCTION FOR YOU FELLOW PILOTS.......thats just....well it's being a THUG cause you are the CAPTAIN and you can....BAD MOJO!!!!

 

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We all know that you can't believe everything you see on Al Gore's internet but it is another thing to spread lies. I implore you to be a little more accurate than this.

What in the world are you talking about?

 

[COOPERVANE]

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You start with a billion dollars