How do you handle this situation?

[PalmettoPilot]

Just thought the FlightInfo community would provide some creative suggestions to the following scenario.

You are the F/O. You are checking in to the hotel. Show time tomorrow is 0545. It takes 15 minutes to get to the airport. There is another crew, from another airline that has to be at the airport at 0515. The front desk clerk at the hotel informs your crew that you will be on the 0500 van with the other crew, effectively reducing your rest period by 30 minutes. Your Captain, whines a little but in the end nothing changes and you still get the 0500 van.

You'll be legal both for rest and for duty time the next day.

What do you do?

 

[rausda27]

Call your Hotel Rep and fill out a Hotel Complaint form.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Grab a baseball bat and bust up the van.

 

[StuckMic]

Tell the hotel they can either run a later van for your crew or they can provide you with a cab.

 

[ASADFW7]

Tell the hotel they can either run a later van for your crew or they can provide you with a cab.

Second the answer

 

[MEL'ed]

Take a 5:45 van. Call it off the gate on time and everyone will be happy.

 

[Jack Mehoff]

I vote for the baseball bat technique

 

[B737 Guy]

Grab a baseball bat and bust up the van.

Do you provide anything besides smartass answers?

 

[Tarzan]

Do you provide anything besides smartass answers?

Smartass questions?

 

[Sig]

Smartass questions?

Great. That was a delicious bass (ale) and it's everywhere.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

I think my answers are good.

 

[Soverytired]

Take a 5:45 van. Call it off the gate on time and everyone will be happy.

I second this one.

"On time, all the time, no matter what the time" - - - God, it's nice not to have a functioning ACARS.

 

[capt. megadeth]

I'd probably suck it up and go at 5am. You can complain to the hotel committee later.

 

[GogglesPisano]

If you were a captain I'd say: If your CBA has language that covers ground transportation and hotels, read it very carefully. Hopefully it states that you can get a cab and expense it.

As an FO there's not much you can do in a situation like that, except complain to your Hotel Committee/CP the next day.

 

[CA1900]

Send your FO out on the 5:OO to get things ready. Tell him you'll be on the later shuttle.

 

[regionaltard]

Offer to buy the Captain a sack of nuts. Have we really fallen so far that we're taking orders from hotel desk clerks now?

 

[LAB727]

Let me guess, this is happening in AGS and we have to catch a 5:00 am van with the PDT crew

 

[SBD-2U3]

Bid a different overnight. If that fails use the bat.

 

[rightseatjocky]

take the 5: 30 shuttle. you'll be right on time.

 

[PalmettoPilot]

Let me guess, this is happening in AGS and we have to catch a 5:00 am van with the PDT crew

On the nose. I don't even like the hotel breakfast boxes, but how cheap do you have to be to give them to 1 crew and not the other? What a dump, the good news is that we're not renewing the contract there. It will probably be somewhere worse.

I like a lot of the answers I'm seeing here. We need to tell the desk clerk that we'll be ready and in the lobby at 0530, whatever transportation they want to provide is fine. If we're late, then the company can check with the hotel about why the flight pushed late.

 

[$$$4nothin]

Tell the hotel that you will be needing a 5:30 van. When you are late and the CP calls the captain he tells the CP to take it up with the hotel. Problem solved in 24 hours.

 

[hoover]

Typical pilot attitude. Heaven forbid you should show up for work a few minutes early. Hell no. Everybody else from the Chief Pilot on down to the hotel van driver should change the way they do things so that you can sit in your hotel room an extra 15 minutes. Grow the fukc up!

 

[Turtlesfly]

No - the issue is that this is effectively a reduction in rest - which is already miserable in some cases with long van rides at min rest . . .

. . . this isn't about growing the fkuc up - it's about being responsible

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Everybody else from the Chief Pilot on down to the hotel van driver should change the way they do things so that you can sit in your hotel room an extra 15 minutes.

Your IQ is slowly climbing over the retard threshold. Keep working on it.

 

[79%N1]

Typical pilot attitude. Heaven forbid you should show up for work a few minutes early. Hell no. Everybody else from the Chief Pilot on down to the hotel van driver should change the way they do things so that you can sit in your hotel room an extra 15 minutes. Grow the fukc up!

Literally one of the dumbest posts I have ever read!!! What a tool! Many times us pilots are scrmbling to get as much sleep as possible to rest for our next 15 hour day ahead, and the difference between going to work at 5 or 530 is a big deal my friend. Not many regular people work a 15 hour work day, sleep in a strange bed at a hotel, get 8 or 9 hours between shifts, then go back for another long day. And remember, that rest starts and ends from when you park ant the gate, to when you push back away. All the time in the van, going through security, walking through the airport.....is all 'rest' time.

 

[EMB170Pilot]

Literally one of the dumbest posts I have ever read!!! What a tool!

You are now figuring this out about Hoover? Oakum Boy is a clase 2nd but relax, it makes for fun entertainment on FI!

 

[indianboy7]

Literally one of the dumbest posts I have ever read!!! What a tool! Many times us pilots are scrmbling to get as much sleep as possible to rest for our next 15 hour day ahead, and the difference between going to work at 5 or 530 is a big deal my friend. Not many regular people work a 15 hour work day, sleep in a strange bed at a hotel, get 8 or 9 hours between shifts, then go back for another long day. And remember, that rest starts and ends from when you park ant the gate, to when you push back away. All the time in the van, going through security, walking through the airport.....is all 'rest' time.

Don't forget that we don't get paid to wake up 45 minutes earlier either......getting up and to the airport 20 or 30 minutes is wasted time.....sure you have more time to get everything ready, but in the end you're just sitting there staring into space wondering why in all of hell you woke up at 4 in the damn morning...imp:

 

[CopilotDoug]

I elect Hoover as the new posterchild for birth control!

 

[jvrac]

I don't even like the hotel breakfast boxes, but how cheap do you have to be to give them to 1 crew and not the other?

Those breakfast boxes are part of our contract. If the hotel doesn't have a continental breakfast they have to provide us with an alternate breakfast.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

I elect Hoover as the new posterchild for birth control!

2nd the motion!