How Did the 9-11 Hijackers Navigate?

[TDTURBO]

to answer your question, yes i have. i've seen multiple handhelds work fine in the front of a 737.

I agree, even if the windscreen that has composite materials that block GPS, I can tell you for sure that my 295 works in all commercial aircraft when I put it near a passenger window. All they had to do was communicate between the terrorist in the cabin with the handheld and the terrorist pilots flying.

 

[BushwickBill]

Actually, I think the questions about VNAV are not that stupid

ooohhh ohhh uh er duh.... me NOT stupid oh oh oh! Im going to tell all my friends der uhhhh. Me pilot. Me good.

 

[LXApilot]

How AA11 Navigated? Give me a break!

VNAV, GPS, LAT/LONG, FMS... you guys are killing me.

It's not really that incredible that they flew these airplanes into their targets. If you take off from Boston westbound, by the time you are on course and climbing through the mid-20s you've got the Hudson in-sight. Then it's a straight shot down the corridor to southern Manhattan. Turn an airplane around over northern Ohio and climb a little (reported at FL410) and fly eastbound a few minutes and guess what? You can see the east coast - ESPECIALLY on a severe clear day like that. As far as descent planning goes - hello, all these fools did was push it over and hold it there. These guys were all over the place, no FMS nor autopilot engaged. These guys wanted VFR weather because they wanted tv and media to drive home the fear into the American citizens. They probably looked into www.weather.com and the 10 day outlook, maybe even watched Tom Skilling on WGN. When they heard it was nice weather coming they bought some tickets. I mean, come on people. Even if they didn't rely on VFR navigation, they could have used some kind of handhelds, I've gotten them to work on the B757 before. G295. They were trained pilots and using the FMS isn't brain surgery. I knew how to use the FMS in a 777 from FlightSim before I ever walked into FlightSafety to learn a thing about any magic box. Scratchpad = KJFK, then direct, execute. Follow the little purple line. These guys didn't care about overstressing or the capabilities of the airplanes. They almost missed tower 2 of the WTC because they were too fast, out of trim, and outside their envelope. You give them way too much credit! It's not brain surgery - just put the nose where you want your airplane to go. In the word's of Tony Blair "their barbaric acts will stand as their ultimate shame for all time".

 

[Captain Overs]

Here's an interesting article about Flight 11.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/redux.html

David Graham is not credible. It's not "What really happened". The reason these people go to the internet is because they can make crap up. Nobody would ever publish his bullshit because they would be held accountable by an editor. You have to be able to back up your facts with proof.

 

[redd]

Yeah, it's a real "interesting" article, it had some detailed info on what happened right after the hijacking, but Graham puts a real spin on events, some not even logical, really out there.

I think there has been some supression of evidence for political reasons with other air tragedies, but not as wild as the speculations and conclusions that this guy is spewing.

Good entertainment value though.