How Competitive is CitationShares?

[skiandsurf]

Thanks all for the info. Sounds like I'm gonna have to meet someone for a chance.

Or you can "pay your dues" like the rest of us. I hate to pick on you or the system, but you got a great break to get into an RJ with 500 hrs, now you want to "meet someone for a chance". Fly your RJ. Build your flight time. Upgrade to Captain. Get some experience. Meet or exceed the posted minimums. Apply. If you are any good, your qualifications will open the doors for you.

Dont rely on others to carry you thru life.

 

[zawillif]

Or you can "pay your dues" like the rest of us. I hate to pick on you or the system, but you got a great break to get into an RJ with 500 hrs, now you want to "meet someone for a chance". Fly your RJ. Build your flight time. Upgrade to Captain. Get some experience. Meet or exceed the posted minimums. Apply. If you are any good, your qualifications will open the doors for you.

Dont rely on others to carry you thru life.

No prob I can see how I'm coming across like this. I just want to point out that I've been paying my dues for 6 years. And I will continue to pay them for as long as necessary. This past year especially living waaay below the poverty level and barely being able to afford food was awesome. And it wasn't a great break it was years of hard work that got me the internship which got me the reduced interview minimums. I was the only 1 of 30 applicants chosen for the internship from my school because I worked my ass off and was competitive, I didn't know anyone.

That all being said I realize that I do need to pay my dues, and I will quietly and comfortably fly my RJ until I can get the hell out of the crappy regional industry. I'm not looking for a handout; it's just in my nature to be competitive and to always look for the advantage over the other guy. I refuse to be one of these 8 year regional captains with 10000 hours who just got comfortable with the semi-good schedule and mediocare pay. I'm not knocking it; it may be for some guys, but its not for me.

 

[pilotpat]

No prob I can see how I'm coming across like this. I just want to point out that I've been paying my dues for 6 years. And I will continue to pay them for as long as necessary. This past year especially living waaay below the poverty level and barely being able to afford food was awesome. And it wasn't a great break it was years of hard work that got me the internship which got me the reduced interview minimums. I was the only 1 of 30 applicants chosen for the internship from my school because I worked my ass off and was competitive, I didn't know anyone.

That all being said I realize that I do need to pay my dues, and I will quietly and comfortably fly my RJ until I can get the hell out of the crappy regional industry. I'm not looking for a handout; it's just in my nature to be competitive and to always look for the advantage over the other guy. I refuse to be one of these 8 year regional captains with 10000 hours who just got comfortable with the semi-good schedule and mediocare pay. I'm not knocking it; it may be for some guys, but its not for me.

Wow!!! Someone actually had a responsible reply AND post. You may have to bring the maturity level down a notch to really fit in.....LOL!

Good answer, btw.

 

[texman]

28 yrs old, hired at CS two years ago with 2700tt. Built a relationshp with them for 4 years, and got the job. Keep the faith!

 

[blueridge71]

Go talk to them at job fairs (one in ATL this weekend) and be persistent.

 

[PURPLEHAZE21]

Zawillif
As a former CS employee...Attitude plays a big part....Maybe you need to rethink that part of career !!!!!!!!

 

[FRACTRASH]

MR. IRRELEVANT: I'm with CS and I know the guy you're talking about who's from Airnow. He has 6000+ hours and was an assistant chief pilot. Great pilot to fly with.

 

[FRACTRASH]

They are looking for high time people, because the high end people in the back demand it and pay a lot of money.

 

[FRACTRASH]

If you want a job with any fractional, the regionals are a great way to get the experience we're looking for. Go throw the gear at a Mesa, Transtates, Mesaba, Piedmont, Chautauqua, and the about 30 more I can think of.

 

[Diesel]

There is a difference between quality time vs just filling the logbook.

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

No prob I can see how I'm coming across like this. I just want to point out that I've been paying my dues for 6 years. And I will continue to pay them for as long as necessary. This past year especially living waaay below the poverty level and barely being able to afford food was awesome. And it wasn't a great break it was years of hard work that got me the internship which got me the reduced interview minimums. I was the only 1 of 30 applicants chosen for the internship from my school because I worked my ass off and was competitive, I didn't know anyone.

That all being said I realize that I do need to pay my dues, and I will quietly and comfortably fly my RJ until I can get the hell out of the crappy regional industry. I'm not looking for a handout; it's just in my nature to be competitive and to always look for the advantage over the other guy. I refuse to be one of these 8 year regional captains with 10000 hours who just got comfortable with the semi-good schedule and mediocare pay. I'm not knocking it; it may be for some guys, but its not for me.

I don't intend to be a negative voice but of those six years, four you were probably in college. That time period is NOT "paying your dues". No wonder you were looking to see if you could get in with less than the posted mins. If I were you I would redefine the definition of "paying your dues". Particularly considering you were in an RJ when you should have been instructing in the right seat of a 172. That sure as hell wasn't "paying your dues" either.

Mr. I.

 

[JettBoii]

Another mindless tangent.

 

[blueridge71]

I don't intend to be a negative voice but of those six years, four you were probably in college. That time period is NOT "paying your dues". No wonder you were looking to see if you could get in with less than the posted mins. If I were you I would redefine the definition of "paying your dues". Particularly considering you were in an RJ when you should have been instructing in the right seat of a 172. That sure as hell wasn't "paying your dues" either.

Mr. I.

It isn't uncommon to find 5-6 year regional FOs. And if you don't think being a regional FO paying dues, then you have never been a regional FO.

 

[dime line]

Thank God most on this board were not regional FO. Anybody that was I'm sorry, but you took that job (sucks to be you). So Paying your dues at your Regional.....I don't think so......Sounds like bad management of your personal assets.

 

[DBCOOPER]

zawillif -

PIC is a must, TT will be enough if you've been a PIC somewhere...doesn't really matter where.

Someone mentioned the AirInc Conference. This would be your best bet to get something going with CS. I know a guy who went to one, he went straight to the CS booth before any others (they like that btw)........and talked to Barry Lambert (assist. chief pilot). If you show him you really want to work for CS, you'll eventually get the job.

My newhire class consisted of about 5 retired airline guys, 5 regional guys (all Capt's), and a couple 135/91 corporate guys (also Captains). The lowest time/experienced guy had been flying a King Air with about 3800 hours TT.

Good Luck.

 

[XTW]

Thank God most on this board were not regional FO. Anybody that was I'm sorry, but you took that job (sucks to be you). So Paying your dues at your Regional.....I don't think so......Sounds like bad management of your personal assets.

I was a "commuter" FO before "commuter" was a taboo term. I still don't know why. It has to be some type of ego thing. Anyway, it was some of the most fun I have ever had flying.

X

 

[Ultra Grump]

Thank God most on this board were not regional FO. Anybody that was I'm sorry, but you took that job (sucks to be you). So Paying your dues at your Regional.....I don't think so......Sounds like bad management of your personal assets.

If you were a regional FO, you're qualified to comment. If not, then you're not. Zip it.

 

[blueridge71]

Thank God most on this board were not regional FO. Anybody that was I'm sorry, but you took that job (sucks to be you). So Paying your dues at your Regional.....I don't think so......Sounds like bad management of your personal assets.

Not necessarily. The regionals are a good way to get jet multi-engine time. When I was hired into the regionals, they were a good place to be with quick upgrades and then a move to the majors.

The only thing certain in aviation is change. It's all a crapshoot. Your fractionals could fold. Your corporate flight department could lose its plane. Your major could merge. Your regional could become a LFC and go out of business or have its contract rebid.

If you've had a good experience in aviation, you've more likely been lucky than smart.

 

[Murphy]

5000 hrs TT and got the thanks, but no thanks from Mr Lambert.

 

[dime line]

Not necessarily. The regionals are a good way to get jet multi-engine time. When I was hired into the regionals, they were a good place to be with quick upgrades and then a move to the majors.

Pretty much sums up why our industry is all f....ed up. Every operator of any plane thinks your there to move onto bigger and better,(so they pay crap) all the while your working and flying your axx off to make that business or individual that much better off.

If you've had a good experience in aviation, you've more likely been lucky than smart

Can't agree with you more

If you were a regional FO, you're qualified to comment. If not, then you're not. Zip it

The pay is public knowledge, so that makes all of us qualified to comment, I never said that the experience gained was lacking.