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Subject: FW: NTSB Delivers Gulfstream CVR Transcript
NTSB Delivers Gulfstream CVR Transcript
Report Arrives
http://www.aero-news.net/#
The NTSB factual report just arrived on the
fatal crash of the Gulfstream G-1159A (GIII), N85VT, which impacted a light
pole near Houston Hobby Airport, on November 22, 2004.
The NTSB cautioned, "The reader of this report is cautioned that the
transcription of a CVR tape is not a precise science but is the best product
possible from an NTSB group investigative effort.The transcript, or parts
thereof, if taken out of context, could be misleading. The attached CVR
transcript should be viewed as an accident investigation tool to be used
inconjunction with other evidence gathered during the investigation.
Conclusions or interpretations should not be made using the transcript as
the sole source of information."
HOT Crewmember hot microphone voice or sound source
RDO Radio transmission from accident aircraft
CTR1 Radio transmission from 1st Houston Center
CTR2 Radio transmission from 2nd Houston Center
APR Radio transmission from Houston Hobby approach control
RAY Radio transmission from Raytheon Hobby fixed base operator
TWR Radio transmission from Houston Hobby tower
-1 Voice identified as Pilot-in-Command (PIC)
-2 Voice identified as Co-Pilot (SIC)
ATIS Radio transmission from Houston Hobby ATIS
-? Voice unidentified
* Unintelligible word
@ Non-pertinent word
# Expletive
- - - Break in continuity
( ) Questionable insertion
[ ] Editorial insertion
.. Pause
Note 1: Times are expressed in central standard time (CST).
Note 2: For ATC transmissions, only radio transmissions to and from
the accident aircraft were transcribed.
05:43:32
START of RECORDING
START of TRANSCRIPT
05:43:32
ATIS ...runway one two left hold short sign on runway four out of
service.
advise on initial contact you have information "Kabek". Hobby ATIS
information "Kabeck". one zero five three Zulu weather, wind, calm.
visibility one eighth. runway four RVR variable one thousand six hundred to,
two thousand four hundred, fog. ceiling one hundred broken nine thousand
overcast. temperature two one, dew point two one. altimeter three zero zero
one. ILS runway four approach in use. departure runway will be assigned by,
tower, one one eight point seven....
05:44:18
HOT-2 gee.
05:44:18
ATIS ...ground control is combined with the tower. notices to
airmen....
05:44:24
HOT-2 so it's a hundred broken, nine over....
05:44:24
ATIS ...**** taxiway Mike closed between taxiway *....
05:44:25
HOT-2 ...with the RVR of uh, sixteen hundred variable to twenty four
hundred there's a good chance.
05:44:33
HOT-1 I think they may give us a break.
05:44:34
HOT-2 I think there's a good chance there.
05:44:37
HOT-1 I used to go into Sacramento [sound of chuckle].
05:44:39
HOT-2 oh, Sacramento was awful.
05:44:41
http://www.aero-news.net/# HOT-1 at, at
two or three o'clock in the morning with the Kings....
05:44:44
HOT-2 uh huh.
05:44:45
HOT-1 ... and I swear that they, they would give me a break on the
RVR.
05:44:50
HOT-2 yeah.
05:44:51
HOT-1 and I know I've done it down to twelve hundred RVR.
05:44:54
HOT-2 oh yeah. I know I, I used to go into Arcata all the time. and
uh, one of the controllers up there I knew pretty well, and he puts out a
special for me, you know. special.
05:45:07
HOT-1 [sound of chuckle]
HOT-2 and I got down and I shot and I couldn't see anything, I
looked straight down **. I was only flying a one eighty two then. that's
right on the coast.
05:45:15
HOT-1 yeah.
05:45:16
HOT-2 looked straight down and I see, the runway there so I thought
oh #, I'll, I'll just go ahead and land. I couldn't find, I couldn't find a
way off the runway. I, and then as soon as I landed, he puts out another
special.
05:45:23
CTR1 central *** weather advisory valid until one three correction,
at one three zero five Zulu. from Monroe to San Angelo, to Leesville, to six
zero miles south of Intercontinental, to Laredo, to Del Rio, to five zero
miles east, northeast of Ft. Stockton, to four five miles west northwest of
Alexandria, to Monroe. an area of widespread limited IFR. ceilings uh, below
uh, three hundred feet visibility below a half a mile with fog. conditions
continuing beyond thirteen hundred Z.
05:46:02
HOT-2 hey Ford, where's my light up here? is it, is it right up
here?
05:46:06
HOT-1 uh, well let's turn on the big light. maybe....
05:46:10
HOT-2 this is page line advance. no, it's gotta be somewhere else.
HOT-1 I think it's on the forward panel here someplace.
05:46:15
CTR1 Gulfstream eight five Victor Tango, contact Houston center, one
three five point three two. good morning.
05:46:20
RDO-2 thirty five thirty two for er eight, eight er, five Victor
Tango. thank you. good morning.
05:46:26
HOT [sound of beep similar to frequency change alert]
05:46:27
RDO-2 and center uh, Gulfstream eight five Victor Tango is with you,
two nine zero.
05:46:32
CTR2 November eight five Victor Tango Houston center, roger.
05:46:35
HOT-2 okay, there, there, there, there, I'm lookin' there. I don't
see it there.
05:46:38
HOT-1 ***, it's right there. overhead....
05:46:40
HOT-2 oh....
05:46:41
HOT-1 ...overhead map light.
HOT-2 ...oh, okay. yeah, what a stupe. I was look.... when you
pointed, I was look ** saw CB flood.
05:46:47
HOT-1 [sound of chuckle]
05:46:49
HOT-2 oh man. yeah, I just got out of this airplane last night.
can't you tell?
05:46:54
HOT-1 yeah.
05:46:55
HOT-2 [sound of laughter] boy, okay, this is looks good. all right,
and on one of 'em it's up here. I can't remember which one that is. oh, you
know uh, one oh three Hotel Tango?
05:47:08
HOT-1 yeah.
05:47:09
HOT-2 that used to be under that, * under that uh, name tag up there
one oh three Hotel Tango. it used to be eight five....
05:47:16
HOT-1 oh really?
05:47:16
HOT-2 ...eight fifty Sierra Mike. eight fifty Sierra Mike is the
same airplane I used to fly back in the late eighties.
05:47:22
HOT-1 oh really.
05:47:22
HOT-2 yeah, early nineties.... I flew it when it had like six
hundred hours on it.... okay, well let's see, what we can do, if you like,
uh, minimum safe altitude in the area is thirty one hundred feet.
05:47:48
HOT-1 'kay.
05:47:50
HOT-2 uh, the ILS is a uh, three degree glideslope. uh, it'll take
us down to a radar altimeter of uh, two hundred feet. or RVR of eighteen,
hundred. and our missed approach procedure is, climb sixteen hundred, then
outbound on the uh, uh, Hobby uh, zero four zero, so it's basically a
straight out to RAYCI intersection which is,
which is fifteen DME, straight ahead. 05:48:30
HOT-1 well you'll have to read that to me after, but initially....
05:48:33
HOT-2 yeah it's sixteen hundred straight ahead. we'll just do it.
just do it just super for you. and then we'll just go out fifteen DME and
hold, and it'll be a teardrop ‘cause it's comin' back into uh, there.... and
as soon as we get the outer mark, uh well, I'll do what you want me to so
when we get to the final approach fix, do you want me to set it to uh,
missed approach altitude then?
05:49:02
HOT-1 yeah.
05:49:03
HOT-2 okay.
05:49:04
HOT-1 there's that big, thing that they're, I think that they're may
have been talking about.
2000Flyer
Subject: FW: NTSB Delivers Gulfstream CVR Transcript
NTSB Delivers Gulfstream CVR Transcript
Report Arrives
http://www.aero-news.net/#
The NTSB factual report just arrived on the
fatal crash of the Gulfstream G-1159A (GIII), N85VT, which impacted a light
pole near Houston Hobby Airport, on November 22, 2004.
The NTSB cautioned, "The reader of this report is cautioned that the
transcription of a CVR tape is not a precise science but is the best product
possible from an NTSB group investigative effort.The transcript, or parts
thereof, if taken out of context, could be misleading. The attached CVR
transcript should be viewed as an accident investigation tool to be used
inconjunction with other evidence gathered during the investigation.
Conclusions or interpretations should not be made using the transcript as
the sole source of information."
HOT Crewmember hot microphone voice or sound source
RDO Radio transmission from accident aircraft
CTR1 Radio transmission from 1st Houston Center
CTR2 Radio transmission from 2nd Houston Center
APR Radio transmission from Houston Hobby approach control
RAY Radio transmission from Raytheon Hobby fixed base operator
TWR Radio transmission from Houston Hobby tower
-1 Voice identified as Pilot-in-Command (PIC)
-2 Voice identified as Co-Pilot (SIC)
ATIS Radio transmission from Houston Hobby ATIS
-? Voice unidentified
* Unintelligible word
@ Non-pertinent word
# Expletive
- - - Break in continuity
( ) Questionable insertion
[ ] Editorial insertion
.. Pause
Note 1: Times are expressed in central standard time (CST).
Note 2: For ATC transmissions, only radio transmissions to and from
the accident aircraft were transcribed.
05:43:32
START of RECORDING
START of TRANSCRIPT
05:43:32
ATIS ...runway one two left hold short sign on runway four out of
service.
advise on initial contact you have information "Kabek". Hobby ATIS
information "Kabeck". one zero five three Zulu weather, wind, calm.
visibility one eighth. runway four RVR variable one thousand six hundred to,
two thousand four hundred, fog. ceiling one hundred broken nine thousand
overcast. temperature two one, dew point two one. altimeter three zero zero
one. ILS runway four approach in use. departure runway will be assigned by,
tower, one one eight point seven....
05:44:18
HOT-2 gee.
05:44:18
ATIS ...ground control is combined with the tower. notices to
airmen....
05:44:24
HOT-2 so it's a hundred broken, nine over....
05:44:24
ATIS ...**** taxiway Mike closed between taxiway *....
05:44:25
HOT-2 ...with the RVR of uh, sixteen hundred variable to twenty four
hundred there's a good chance.
05:44:33
HOT-1 I think they may give us a break.
05:44:34
HOT-2 I think there's a good chance there.
05:44:37
HOT-1 I used to go into Sacramento [sound of chuckle].
05:44:39
HOT-2 oh, Sacramento was awful.
05:44:41
http://www.aero-news.net/# HOT-1 at, at
two or three o'clock in the morning with the Kings....
05:44:44
HOT-2 uh huh.
05:44:45
HOT-1 ... and I swear that they, they would give me a break on the
RVR.
05:44:50
HOT-2 yeah.
05:44:51
HOT-1 and I know I've done it down to twelve hundred RVR.
05:44:54
HOT-2 oh yeah. I know I, I used to go into Arcata all the time. and
uh, one of the controllers up there I knew pretty well, and he puts out a
special for me, you know. special.
05:45:07
HOT-1 [sound of chuckle]
HOT-2 and I got down and I shot and I couldn't see anything, I
looked straight down **. I was only flying a one eighty two then. that's
right on the coast.
05:45:15
HOT-1 yeah.
05:45:16
HOT-2 looked straight down and I see, the runway there so I thought
oh #, I'll, I'll just go ahead and land. I couldn't find, I couldn't find a
way off the runway. I, and then as soon as I landed, he puts out another
special.
05:45:23
CTR1 central *** weather advisory valid until one three correction,
at one three zero five Zulu. from Monroe to San Angelo, to Leesville, to six
zero miles south of Intercontinental, to Laredo, to Del Rio, to five zero
miles east, northeast of Ft. Stockton, to four five miles west northwest of
Alexandria, to Monroe. an area of widespread limited IFR. ceilings uh, below
uh, three hundred feet visibility below a half a mile with fog. conditions
continuing beyond thirteen hundred Z.
05:46:02
HOT-2 hey Ford, where's my light up here? is it, is it right up
here?
05:46:06
HOT-1 uh, well let's turn on the big light. maybe....
05:46:10
HOT-2 this is page line advance. no, it's gotta be somewhere else.
HOT-1 I think it's on the forward panel here someplace.
05:46:15
CTR1 Gulfstream eight five Victor Tango, contact Houston center, one
three five point three two. good morning.
05:46:20
RDO-2 thirty five thirty two for er eight, eight er, five Victor
Tango. thank you. good morning.
05:46:26
HOT [sound of beep similar to frequency change alert]
05:46:27
RDO-2 and center uh, Gulfstream eight five Victor Tango is with you,
two nine zero.
05:46:32
CTR2 November eight five Victor Tango Houston center, roger.
05:46:35
HOT-2 okay, there, there, there, there, I'm lookin' there. I don't
see it there.
05:46:38
HOT-1 ***, it's right there. overhead....
05:46:40
HOT-2 oh....
05:46:41
HOT-1 ...overhead map light.
HOT-2 ...oh, okay. yeah, what a stupe. I was look.... when you
pointed, I was look ** saw CB flood.
05:46:47
HOT-1 [sound of chuckle]
05:46:49
HOT-2 oh man. yeah, I just got out of this airplane last night.
can't you tell?
05:46:54
HOT-1 yeah.
05:46:55
HOT-2 [sound of laughter] boy, okay, this is looks good. all right,
and on one of 'em it's up here. I can't remember which one that is. oh, you
know uh, one oh three Hotel Tango?
05:47:08
HOT-1 yeah.
05:47:09
HOT-2 that used to be under that, * under that uh, name tag up there
one oh three Hotel Tango. it used to be eight five....
05:47:16
HOT-1 oh really?
05:47:16
HOT-2 ...eight fifty Sierra Mike. eight fifty Sierra Mike is the
same airplane I used to fly back in the late eighties.
05:47:22
HOT-1 oh really.
05:47:22
HOT-2 yeah, early nineties.... I flew it when it had like six
hundred hours on it.... okay, well let's see, what we can do, if you like,
uh, minimum safe altitude in the area is thirty one hundred feet.
05:47:48
HOT-1 'kay.
05:47:50
HOT-2 uh, the ILS is a uh, three degree glideslope. uh, it'll take
us down to a radar altimeter of uh, two hundred feet. or RVR of eighteen,
hundred. and our missed approach procedure is, climb sixteen hundred, then
outbound on the uh, uh, Hobby uh, zero four zero, so it's basically a
straight out to RAYCI intersection which is,
which is fifteen DME, straight ahead. 05:48:30
HOT-1 well you'll have to read that to me after, but initially....
05:48:33
HOT-2 yeah it's sixteen hundred straight ahead. we'll just do it.
just do it just super for you. and then we'll just go out fifteen DME and
hold, and it'll be a teardrop ‘cause it's comin' back into uh, there.... and
as soon as we get the outer mark, uh well, I'll do what you want me to so
when we get to the final approach fix, do you want me to set it to uh,
missed approach altitude then?
05:49:02
HOT-1 yeah.
05:49:03
HOT-2 okay.
05:49:04
HOT-1 there's that big, thing that they're, I think that they're may
have been talking about.