horton = evil bastard

[airplane wizard]

Nothing about this is ever going to change in this country unless the right people's throats start getting slashed.

 

[CRJ puppy]

isn't it a good idea if they can emerge out of bk on their own without merging with us airways?? If the guy can do this he probably deserves the payday he has earned ! Its real easy for labor to throw popshots at the skipper trying to steer the boat thru rough waters. Cuts are painful but sometimes necessary.

flame bait warning!!

Flame bait warning!!

Do not bite!

 

[Dizel8]

The poor old guy at UAL only got around 40M?

 

[waveflyer]

Umm, yes, that's the part that applies to the "subversion of business by lawyers and politicians." I was referencing.

I guess I don't understand how you blame lawyers and pols, but not the money men executives and business owners that bankroll them. Seems they are the root problem- along with a judicial and 1/2 the electorate that think money = speech and corporations are people.

 

[waveflyer]

waveflyer.

It is "American Cronyism" not capitalism. This country lost capitalism a long time ago.

I wish I could disagree- well said

 

[Dan Roman]

The poor old guy at UAL only got around 40M?

Yep, after raping the employee retirement funds, management saw fit to award $800 million in management bonus's and stock dividends if my memory serves me well.

 

[Data]

I guess I don't understand how you blame lawyers and pols, but not the money men executives and business owners that bankroll them. Seems they are the root problem- along with a judicial and 1/2 the electorate that think money = speech and corporations are people.

Money always buys influence, that will never change nor can it be legislated away. To believe so it pathetically naive. Greedy business versus greedy government....I'll take business thank you. But let me guess, we need more government to change the behavior of the greedy business men? Look at Obamacare as an example, the politicians are so happy to finally have this, but what really happened behind the scenes? Big Pharma and Healthcare bought the politicians and the politicians bought more influence. And the left (and some on the right) are cheering this huge victory for the common man and the middle class. Tell me how this is different. The larger our government gets and the more they try to legislate capitalism the worse off the middle class is. Go ahead, legislate the hell out of the rich and tax them into oblivion, it will fail like it has every single time it's been tried in the history of man. But don't even think about rolling back the influence of government and letting capitalism work....nah, that can't work, it's not fair!

 

[waveflyer]

Oh good lord-
Nice transition-
Obamacare? Really?
Do better and I might finish reading a post....
Btw, yes, glass steagal should never have been repealed- government ought to break up the banks and restore capitalism instead of the oligopolies that reign. In short, what good is a democracy if people do not use it?
Move to Somalia if you hate government so much. See how you fare.

 

[waveflyer]

By the way, yes- Obamacare is helping- millions have insurance that wouldn't w/o it. Get off the propaganda-
That another thing shaking the foundation of the country- TV's and talking heads thinking FOR us.

 

[redflyer65]

The poor old guy at UAL only got around 40M?

That's what I was thinking. How can he make it on that? Does he still tip the valet, or does he have to Self Park? Embarassing.

 

[Dan Roman]

That's what I was thinking. How can he make it on that? Does he still tip the valet, or does he have to Self Park? Embarassing.

Geez, where do you begin with this one. You really think it's ok for someone to have an earned benefit stolen from them? You really think $40, 000 is an acceptable retirement. You really think an airline pilot doesn't deserve a retirement better than that? I could go on, but your response reeks of envy and pettiness.

 

[Data]

Oh good lord-
Nice transition-
Obamacare? Really?
Do better and I might finish reading a post....
Btw, yes, glass steagal should never have been repealed- government ought to break up the banks and restore capitalism instead of the oligopolies that reign. In short, what good is a democracy if people do not use it?
Move to Somalia if you hate government so much. See how you fare.

Too bad you're not willing to see the valid comparison. I knew you'd have trouble with the Obamacare example, that's ok though, partisans will always be partisans. Carry on.

 

[Ty Webb]

Geez, where do you begin with this one. You really think it's ok for someone to have an earned benefit stolen from them? You really think $40, 000 is an acceptable retirement. You really think an airline pilot doesn't deserve a retirement better than that? I could go on, but your response reeks of envy and pettiness.

Uh, Dan, I think he was talking about the United CEO only getting $40 million, not a retiree getting $40 thousand.

 

[redflyer65]

Thanks Ty. Your right. Just a little sacrasm Dan, not to worry.

 

[slaquer5]

Geez, where do you begin with this one. You really think it's ok for someone to have an earned benefit stolen from them? You really think $40, 000 is an acceptable retirement. You really think an airline pilot doesn't deserve a retirement better than that? I could go on, but your response reeks of envy and pettiness.

I thought no one could be that stupid.