Holy line of Thunderstorms batman

[PacoPollo]

Just flew over that beast a few hours ago.


Thank God I was in a Falcon 50EX and not a MD-80

Ding ding ding ding We have a winner..another Dorky Pilot Series Post!!!!!

 

[Dangerkitty]

Ding ding ding ding We have a winner..another Dorky Pilot Series Post!!!!!

Typical PacoPollo post. Has nothing to contribute so he just slings insults because he feels so bitter about being stuck at Eagle.

Maybe therapy is in order.

 

[PacoPollo]

Careful not to get banned again....

 

[Dangerkitty]

Careful not to get banned again....

Once again you need to brush up on your English as a second language classes.

 

[Metro752]

What's your problem with speaking spanish?

 

[Lead Sled]

Not only is desceding with the spoilers out bad fuel conservation it is also terrible energy management.

If there is no traffic out there then you should just wait to descend via a 4-5' degree rate of descent. Thats going to give you the best of both worlds.

Well said Danger, but it was much more than that. Remember, at the time I flew with those guys, I was also flying a Lear 35 and we didn't have a "banana" to tell us when to descend either. We also had to "think" - imagine that. Refering back to Starckr's post where he mentioned things like stalling a Lear. How do you explain that - exceptional skill or judgement? I would call it lack of knowledge and/or judgement and/or skill. Right or wrong, my overall impression was one of lack of discipline - a bunch of cowboys out having a good time in a Lear - night after night after night. Good times, but bad habits.

My original point was that most pilots can manage to complete a flight without having to resort to "amazing feats of airmanship" and do it comfortably and during hours when people were actually paying attention. Freight pilots don't have any thing on the rest of the world.

'Sled

 

[Dangerkitty]

What's your problem with speaking spanish?

I dont have a problem with spanish. But if this idiot is going to try to insult me he might as well use proper grammar.

 

[PacoPollo]

I dont have a problem with spanish. But if this idiot is going to try to insult me he might as well use proper grammar.

Sir, where have I insulted you ??

 

[Dangerkitty]

Sir, where have I insulted you ??

You attempt to but fail miserably. You also stop posting when I ask you simple questions that you are too scared to answer.

You are the one that started all the BS. You dont even know me yet you continually state I am an arrogant AA pilot. Only becuase you have had some sort of bad experience with AA pilots or the APA in the past you paint us all with a broad brush. Sorry things have not been rosy at Eagle for you but it has nothing to do with me.

 

[starchkr]

DAM, you outted me Beotch!!!! :laugh:

I guess it's too late now to break out the "YOU'VE JUST BEEN PUNK'D" huh...

If i could have lasted a couple more pages it would have been great...the first flightinfo punk'd would have worked right into my hands. Maybe i should be more careful next time...I guess i didn't figure a cargo thread troll would be the one to out me though...it's cool, I'll remember that. It was pretty good though, you have to admit...:laugh: :beer:


Actually, USC328 is correct, by staying up higher for a longer period of time we are burning less fuel to our descent point, and then bringing the throttles to idle allows almost no burn from the flight levels to the ground. Versus using a longer descent path with the power up to keep the speed up as well, and you will burn many times the fuel over the previous descent. Our descent planning gives us max speed with min fuel burn...however, i can't say i have ever done the gear down and spoilers out from the flight levels (must have been an oh $hit night huh Purv...). Usually a 2 to 1 gives us the best speed for fuel burn, sometimes you can go a little less with headwinds...but i know they can do a 1 to 1, again never done it on the line, but the emergency descent training will show it can do that and more.

As far as sloppy...I have flown many an airline pilot around on our airplanes, and all of them are impressed at how we operate and get things done. The descents impress them and show them just how easily it can be done. They also like how "organized" we are in the cockpit, even when we are having fun, laughing and enjoying what we do. Most of them actually express that although they are making $150K+ they really wish they could fly a cargo lear again or for the first time. So sloppy really does not fit our operation, and as has been said before, the FAA loves to ride around with us, and they all approve of our operations as well, and trust me, we don't "tone it down" just because they are on board. We fly like we are taught to do, and that's all...just like you fly the way you are taught...they are both safe, and both get the job done.

Ok, so the above was pretty honest...and for the rest of ya, man, everything else on this thread was pretty bogus, and all said to keep the fire under your arse going...and it worked, it is way too easy to get to some of you. Maybe a little toning down of the "serious" side and a little up swing of the child inside would do some wonders. And yes, sometimes Gulfstream i do feel like i am still 12...man do you remember those days, all fun and games, and no worries about anything else...except maybe a little inkling towards that really well endowed girl that bloomed a little earlier than the rest...yeah, i like to let the kid inside roam free, it will keep me young longer.