Hiring ay UPS?

[skyboy1977]

Any rumors of UPS hiring anytime soon?

 

[DOVPILOT]

I heard the F word from a very senior SDF MD-11 CA while jumpseating, so maybe not so soon. One can only hope this economy will rebound quickly.

 

[1800 RVR]

I heard the F word from a very senior SDF MD-11 CA while jumpseating, so maybe not so soon. One can only hope this economy will rebound quickly.

Before this thread gets out of hand, there are NO talks of furloughs, or hiring for that matter, at this time. There are many who are SPECULATING that UPS may attempt a furlough, but that is all that it is right now - speculation. I can't say (because I have NO idea) what will or will not happen in the future, but nothing is planned for now. If anything is going to happen, we will probably know more in the 1st QT 2009. Nothing will happen before that.

 

[EMBPILOT1]

Not only are there no plans to hire in 09', if you are in the pool, you will probably have to re-interview when the hiring process starts again. Sorry, but that is the word I have been told.

 

[Bob Dylan]

No plans to hire in the near future now that the DHL deal isn't happening.

At a meeting with management last week, they told us that they were planning for 35 airframes to be added to cover the DHL flying in the original agreement.

Now, they aren't planning on any hiring and they are continuing with the retirement of the DC-8s.

Also, yes, there is speculation that the IPA and UPS are discussing furlough mitigation strategies.

Not looking too good at UPS right now.

 

[b747dogg]

Did the over 60 retread FEs go back to the Captain seat? If so, who filled their FE seats.

 

[FO 4 Life]

Over 60 FEs went to both seats. Some via vacancies and other due to displacement. The 727 and 747 classic have been parked lately and those pilots shotgunned out into the system. There are still several over 60 (age) FEs on the DC8; however, the bottom 60 (seniority) or so were displaced from mostly ANC FO.

 

[Frank Towns]

The speculation on furloughs and mitigation strategy are just that SPECULATION. I don't know why everyone is talking furloughs. We are still making money and even Friedman couldn't figure what is going to happen with the economy.

 

[Networ-King]

The number that's floating around is a profit of 750Million for the 4th Quarter here at UPS. I have nothing to back that up, but it's what I'm hearing. As for furloughs...the sky is falling at UPS ANYTIME we don't make the same money or more money as the previous year/quarter, so the belt is being tightened. DHL is not done yet, it's reduced to 100K worth of freight a year and not 1.3 Billion. UPS has gotten a lot of DHL customers straight up..... I know... it's a sh!tty way to grow, I've been on the other side of the fence and it sucks, but it is what it is. New 767's are on the way and nobody seems to know if they're replacements for the DC 8's or actual growth. I'll be the pesimist and say they are going to be replacements for the 8's as they are parked. No mention of furloughs from the company or the union, just pilots flying around, being bored, and worrying aaaaaannnnndddd making sh!t up. Not that it couldn't happen, but lets not feed management with any ammo people...(stay off the Bar and Gril with what we can give back l) As for hiring....this is from a very reliable source.... hiring for "all professional positions" at UPS is going to be outsourced. Yes... I know how freaking ridiculous that sounds, but it's true. Take it for what it's worth. 2009 should be a very interesting year for all involved in aviation. Delta's cutting back, USAir West is cutting back, SWA is deferring all of their orders for 09, etc.... oh and lets not forget that age 65 really...... a heck... I'm not even going to go there.... good luck to all of us...2009 will be a very interesting(F*&Ked UP) year.

Net

PS. From manning : Look for either a vacancy bid or displacement bid at Big Brown in Jan or March.

 

[PreContact]

I'm guessing displacement bid...we never have vacancy bids anymore...but if we do, the over 60 guys can get more seats...I wonder how many are left on the 8 panel who haven't taken an upgrade already...

 

[Networ-King]

I'm guessing displacement bid...we never have vacancy bids anymore...but if we do, the over 60 guys can get more seats...I wonder how many are left on the 8 panel who haven't taken an upgrade already...

Yep you're right.... as per the contract the over 60 guys can bid upward in a displacement bid, but in the meaning and intent it specifies that only in a vacancy bid can the over 60 guys bid up. Look at the last bid we had here, it was called a vacancy/displacement bid . Never has UPS done something like that. It's always been a vacancy bid or a displacement bid. You think there was back room deal made? UPS calls the last bid a vacancy/displacement bid so BM's good ole buddies can bid up ONLY if he leaves their precious manager pilots alone......getting those guys on the list will cost the company tons of money, so they chose the lesser of evils. But hey... what do I know.... the glass is half empty right now, but hopefully that'll change to being half full.

Net

 

[brownie]

STRAGIHT FROM MANNING>
DISPLACEMENT BID FOR FEB DUE TO REDUCE STAFFING IN ONTARIO.:crying:

 

[Networ-King]

STRAGIHT FROM MANNING>
DISPLACEMENT BID FOR FEB DUE TO REDUCE STAFFING IN ONTARIO.:crying:

Yep....

The glass is half empty......

brownie...

Did you talk to Kim or Craig about this one?

Net

 

[brownie]

Actually i spoke to the person that craig gets his marching orders from. I'm sorry for the bad news for everyone including myself.:angryfire

 

[jmreii]

The speculation on furloughs and mitigation strategy are just that SPECULATION. I don't know why everyone is talking furloughs. We are still making money and even Friedman couldn't figure what is going to happen with the economy.

UPS made money before they ever had anything to do with aviation. Go figure!

 

[Networ-King]

UPS made money before they ever had anything to do with aviation. Go figure!

Yeah but unless they got christ himself to bless those hard working brown trucks to drive on water, there would have been no international expansion. Don't think that UPS management didn't try to resurrect him and pay him to do something that . My glass is getting emptier and emptier.....

Net

 

[instructordude]

Do you guys have a flowback to the trucks?

 

[Networ-King]

Do you guys have a flowback to the trucks?

GO AWAY YOU F U C KING T U R D..... gaaawwwwd I just don't understand morons like you and why the moderators put us with idiots like you. D amn I just waised a minuter of my life replying to you stupid a s s ........

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Instructor Dude makes me laugh. It is even funnier when he gets someone to bite on his idiocy.

 

[L'il J.Seinfeld]

Do you guys have a flowback to the trucks?

That's actually pretty funny.