Hired at NJA

[Guitar Guy]

Congratulations, Archie! I'm very glad that you got the offer and I hope you enjoy the job. The X sure is fast, from my perspective in the U-boat fleet...

Welcome aboard and feel free to PM if you have any questions that I might be able to help with.

 

[Heavy Set]

Great job with getting the X. Enjoy watching the rest of us down below as you zoooom by...

 

[skiandsurf]

Got the call today for a May 8th indoc class at NetJets. I got my first and only choice for domicile (LAX), along with the Citation X (the only aircraft offered).

The type rating course in the Citation X starts on June 1st. I was surprised to see that the course is only 19 days long...that is of course until I noticed that we only have one day off during that period!! Yikes!!

Getting ready for the firehose method of learning again!

Arch

Congrats Archie,
Here is what to expect.
* 2 weeks indoc and a thorough medical. ( this 2 weeks is stress free).
* 3 weeks training...yes firehose method. It is good training but with 5-7 weeks off after training you will forget most of it.
* 4 days of more training after 5 week vacation. (2 days of ground school, 1 day of preflight, 1 day of flying).
* back to vacation while waiting for IOE.

It looks like you are coming from an airline background, prepare yourself to see lots of waste. It is scarey.
I am also LAX based on the X.

 

[pilot370]

Congrats Archie,
Here is what to expect.
* 2 weeks indoc and a thorough medical. ( this 2 weeks is stress free).
* 3 weeks training...yes firehose method. It is good training but with 5-7 weeks off after training you will forget most of it.
* 4 days of more training after 5 week vacation. (2 days of ground school, 1 day of preflight, 1 day of flying).
* back to vacation while waiting for IOE.

It looks like you are coming from an airline background, prepare yourself to see lots of waste. It is scarey.
I am also LAX based on the X.

Do you get a break between Indoc and start of a/c training?

 

[Archie Bunker]

Congrats Archie,
Here is what to expect.
* 2 weeks indoc and a thorough medical. ( this 2 weeks is stress free).
* 3 weeks training...yes firehose method. It is good training but with 5-7 weeks off after training you will forget most of it.
* 4 days of more training after 5 week vacation. (2 days of ground school, 1 day of preflight, 1 day of flying).
* back to vacation while waiting for IOE.

It looks like you are coming from an airline background, prepare yourself to see lots of waste. It is scarey.
I am also LAX based on the X.

Sea and Surf,

Thanks for the info. Derinda told our group of interviewees that the company medical is history in May. She said that all we had to bring to class was a current 1st Class Medical.

Looks like I'll have an approximate 2 week break between indoc and the Citation X type course....after that, who knows how long of a break we will have? NJA has already emailed me the Citation X SOP, the pre-course study guide, and the flight maneuvers manual. The only thing I can't find is a normal checklist (before start/taxi/etc)....or does the X use an electronic one? At any rate, I hope to be somewhat boned up on systems and procedures before I arrive.

Sorry to bug you with questions, but where do you park at LAX?

Archie

 

[Going2Baja]

Archie - Life must be tough when your only worries are where to park in LAX!!

Good luck in class.

Baja.

 

[skiandsurf]

Sea and Surf,
Thanks for the info. Derinda told our group of interviewees that the company medical is history in May. She said that all we had to bring to class was a current 1st Class Medical.
Looks like I'll have an approximate 2 week break between indoc and the Citation X type course....after that, who knows how long of a break we will have? NJA has already emailed me the Citation X SOP, the pre-course study guide, and the flight maneuvers manual. The only thing I can't find is a normal checklist (before start/taxi/etc)....or does the X use an electronic one? At any rate, I hope to be somewhat boned up on systems and procedures before I arrive.
Sorry to bug you with questions, but where do you park at LAX?
Archie

Glad to hear about the medical. Study the material, get familiar with the cockpit layout and what the switches do. Obviously know all limitations and memory items. Checklist usage is different from what I was used to. They claim to be very CRM oriented, but I question this. They start the engine with only one pilot in the cockpit. I guess this is the norm for corporate aircraft. And finally parking at LAX. They will reimburse your parking bill. Use Lot B, $8/day. Dont park up front, $30/day. And one last thing, in my short time here, I have found that they do NOT want to talk to me. I have called and left messages for them to call me back regarding something.....they do NOT return calls or my emails. ( it was 1 call and 1 email to one guy, 1 call to the union guy, and 1 email to another department.......no response from any). Still in the touchy feely mode. The direct deposit is always there every other friday. Any more?

 

[Archie Bunker]

Archie - Life must be tough when your only worries are where to park in LAX!!

Hey, it's the small things in life that will bite you on the keister when you least expect it!

 

[Archie Bunker]

Checklist usage is different from what I was used to.

Got a copy of the checklist by any chance?

And finally parking at LAX. They will reimburse your parking bill. Use Lot B, $8/day. Dont park up front, $30/day.

I can understand parking at lot B if you're airlining somewhere to start your trip, but what if your trip starts in LAX, over by the corporate/cargo side of the airport? Can't you park at Signature or Millionaire, or wherever your trip starts? Sorry for the dumb questions, but this is new to me.

 

[Lostdog65]

Congrats Archie!

Now tell Derrinda to pull my resume from the stack and call me!!!

J/K...good luck...hope to see ya soon!

Eric

(Willing to relocate to LAX!)

 

[skiandsurf]

Got a copy of the checklist by any chance?

**** dont worry so much about the checklist. It really isnt a challenge/respond type.



I can understand parking at lot B if you're airlining somewhere to start your trip, but what if your trip starts in LAX, over by the corporate/cargo side of the airport? Can't you park at Signature or Millionaire, or wherever your trip starts? Sorry for the dumb questions, but this is new to me.

****most of your trips will start with an airline flight. Depending on where you live, you might have to drive to SMO or VNY. Something like it has to be within 90 from your house. LAX is 90 miles from me, but SMO is more, therefore I do not have to drive there. They might put me in a cab from LAX. Even if you start at LAX, probably park at Lot B, take the shuttle then a cab. Or maybe call the FBO and have them send a cab to Lot B. Expense all of it.

I am very new here, still waiting for IOE, so I dont know much. But keep asking questions, I will help you out as much as I can. Do sign up for the American Express Hilton Honors credit card, and call them to sign up for the highest status....tell them you are with Netjets...i think it is diamond status.

 

[positiveg]

Got accepted as well. Archie we interviewed together. Congrats. Looking forward to my last move. PBI at the end of Aug. Citation Excel.

I live in the Boca Raton area so PBI would be my first choice. How hard is it to get it as a new-hire?

 

[Guitar Guy]

I live in the Boca Raton area so PBI would be my first choice. How hard is it to get it as a new-hire?

Unlike an airline-type operation, new-hires don't bid for domiciles, as they are termed at NJA. What's happening lately is that applicants are being interviewed based upon that person's domicile preference. Supposedly the company is lately only interviewing for LAX and CMH, as the other domiciles are considered to be filled up at this time. And if you are wondering, there is no language in the contract allowing new-hires to switch from domicile to another.

 

[Ultra Grump]

And finally parking at LAX. They will reimburse your parking bill. Use Lot B, $8/day. Dont park up front, $30/day.

Do NOT park in Lot B. That lot sucks, is not very secure or well-lit, and the shuttle bus service is VERY infrequent. Until the company comes up with a plan for parking, park somewhere more convenient, with better shuttle service. Lot C is better, and many of the nearby hotels offer airport parking with shuttle service to the terminals and ready access to cabs to get to the FBOs.

Depending on where you live, you might have to drive to SMO or VNY. Something like it has to be within 90 from your house.

Each domicile has one satellite airport assigned to it. For LAX, it is VNY. If you live within 90 miles, you must also "choose" a satellite. Since there is only one choice...

 

[Grizz]

1 call to the union guy

Not sure who you called but check you PMs for my number. I'll answer the question if I can.

 

[ozpilot]

Checklist usage is different from what I was used to. They claim to be very CRM oriented, but I question this. They start the engine with only one pilot in the cockpit. I guess this is the norm for corporate aircraft. And finally parking at LAX. They will reimburse your parking bill.

In the X, both pilots are required to be in the cockpit for engine start. (although I do agree our CRM could be better.)

I'm not aware that the company will reimburse your parking bill - please tell me more ....

 

[Grizz]

All domicile based pilots are reimbursed for parking.

 

[ozpilot]

All domicile based pilots are reimbursed for parking.

oh ok thanks Grizz

 

[Crack-Ed]

20.8 Parking Fees at Domiciles/Satellites
​

The Company will reimburse parking for a pilot who uses a Domicile/Satellite when no parking spaces are otherwise provided by the Company. The Company and the Union will discuss concerns with Company provided parking.

Note they only pay when "company parking" is not provided (which is almost always the case).​

 

[Archie Bunker]

20.8 Parking Fees at Domiciles/Satellites​

The Company will reimburse parking for a pilot who uses a Domicile/Satellite when no parking spaces are otherwise provided by the Company. The Company and the Union will discuss concerns with Company provided parking.​

Note they only pay when "company parking" is not provided (which is almost always the case).​

Ok, if it's "almost always the case," do you know if company provided parking at LAX and VNY (satellite) is available? Thanks.