hired after a checkride bust

[saviboy]

hi
one of my captains busted his type rating/ATP ride.
I wondered if he still has a chance or if his chances are completely compromised with the majors.

 

[viper548]

As long as he doesn't have a long history of busting checkrides he'll be fine

 

[Dangerkitty]

hi
one of my captains busted his type rating/ATP ride.
I wondered if he still has a chance or if his chances are completely compromised with the majors.

I busted my private not once but TWICE!!

I was hired at both AA and Delta.

 

[LucyFurr]

Majors can afford to be choosey. All other things being equal, he will not get the job.

 

[Dangerkitty]

Majors can afford to be choosey. All other things being equal, he will not get the job.

Thats BS.

 

[blzr]

Most companies know that you can have a bad day in the sim. Just be honest and let the card play. you may get lucky.

 

[optimater]

I've busted a couple of rides and got on with a major. Just be upfront about it and take responsibility. Don't try to make excuses or blame the examiner, even if you feel you got screwed.

 

[satpak77]

I know someone who confirmed crashed an airplane AND busted a few rides AND is now at a major

 

[GogglesPisano]

He should not have a problem. One or two checkride busts (out of 10-20?) ruining a career is an old wive's tale.

Although he hasdisqualified himself from employment at MESA!!!

 

[Daddy69]

I have failed a couple check rides. I am in ground school at a major right now. Just be honest when you interview. There is no such thing as a perfect pilot. Some people fail that don't deserve to, while others somehow pass them all. A lot of it is just the type of examiner you have and what kind of mood he is in that day. Bottom line, people do make mistakes from time to time. Just be honest.

 

[Creamer]

If he takes responsibility for the bust and is able to explain what he learned from the ordeal he will be OK. Interviewers are people too and they like to see real people instead of yet another Chuck Yeager. If the interviewer thinks he can spend a week on the road with him, he'll get the nod.

 

[Einstein]

I know someone who confirmed crashed an airplane AND busted a few rides AND is now at a major

Let me guess, that "someone" was you. Yeh, a few bad apples still get through the cracks.

 

[Phaedrus]

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[Palomino]

there are those who have failed checkrides and those who will. we're not computers, we are humans flying planes.

don't sweat it. be honest when the situation is brought up and take responsibility. mention what you learned from it.

 

[Max Powers]

Failed 4 of them over the past 13 years and I have gotten on with 2 majors. Never was an issue. Of course, I was in HS for 2 of them but you get the picture. Turn it into a positive and you will be an even stronger candidate than those arrogant posters above who think they are perfect those are the types they don't want to hire.

 

[jws717]

looks like your week in texas turned out sour. Ive taken a bust myself and, its all about how you react to the question. tell me about and failed checkrides? if you explain that it made you a better pilot then your in.

 

[captain caveman]

Lots of people that busted their CL65, EMB120 type at ASA have been hired at majors. Lots of people that have never busted a checkride, like me, have not been hired by majors.

 

[whaleroast]

Lots of people that busted their CL65, EMB120 type at ASA have been hired at majors. Lots of people that have never busted a checkride, like me, have not been hired by majors.

Boo-hoo, you never failed a checkride, whaaaaa!
My 4 year-old has a perfect checkride pass rate too and isn't working for a major. He also whines less than you.

 

[saviboy]

quote:"looks like your week in texas turned out sour. Ive taken a bust myself and, its all about how you react to the question. tell me about and failed checkrides? if you explain that it made you a better pilot then your in."

actually this guy passed 2 days ago, its another captain who busted 6 months ago.
thanks for all the answers.

 

[captain caveman]

Boo-hoo, you never failed a checkride, whaaaaa!
My 4 year-old has a perfect checkride pass rate too and isn't working for a major.

'Oh yeah! Well you act just like a 4 year old, so there!

 

[bubbers44]

I have never been asked if I busted a check ride. I didn't know anyone cared. Does the FAA even keep track? My understanding was the pink slip just required you to get signed off for another check ride.

 

[Helos2Galaxy]

I guess we are all on the I failed XX check rides and still got on with a major.....

~~ 8 years ago I had a bunch of family problems going on and busted 2 type/upgrade rides (in the airplane) within 8 days. I sateyed an F/O fro another 8 weeks to clear my head and then successfully passed the ride.

Within 18 months I had been hired/pooled at 3 majors (Though turned down by a 4th).

The bottom line is... if you can proove you learned from your misfortunes and recovered in your career, while conveying it to an interviewer, your career can be salvaged.

Additionally, not every carrier even asks about check ride busts at interviews, however, the major I did get on with did in fact ask about busts. I was honest, humble and straightfroward AND STILL HIRED!

 

[CTflyer]

I know someone who confirmed crashed an airplane AND busted a few rides AND is now at a major

Was it 32LT10?

 

[Dave Benjamin]

I have never been asked if I busted a check ride. I didn't know anyone cared. Does the FAA even keep track? My understanding was the pink slip just required you to get signed off for another check ride.

You can request a copy of your records from the FAA. I am pretty sure you will find a copy of the notice of disapproval (AKA pink slip) in those records.

A busted check ride will not prevent you from getting a job. As others have mentioned you should be prepared to address it in the interview. It's expected that you'll take repsonsibility for your failure and explain what you did to insure it didn't happen again. If you have no failed checkrides in the 121/135 environment you may not even get asked about a private, IFR, or CFI checkride bust.

 

[248to2.8]

A failure of a type ride or ATP isn't that big of a deal. A failure of a PC is another thing. A type ride and ATP ride is pretty difficult and most people realize this. However if you fail a PC this means you don't know your company procedures well and this looks pretty bad on a record.

 

[Bosley]

Let me guess, that "someone" was you. Yeh, a few bad apples still get through the cracks.

Ah, more words of wisdom from the B1900 flight attendant! I see you're still as clueless as ever!

 

[Vastly Underemp]

The FAA has recently begun implementation of a program to not only computerize all Airman records but to purge all records older than 5 years, unless they are pertinent to an ongoing investigation or a penalty for an offense. Anyone may request that any records older than 5 years (again meeting the above criteria) may be removed manually from the record if the computer hasn't gotten to your records yet. The Airman records forwarded to a prospective employer list certificates, ratings, priveleges, incidents and accidents, not checkride busts. However, the information provided by a former employer to a prospective employer under PRIA background checks will contain a statement about busting checkrides/not completeing training.