High oil and RJs do not mix well.....

[TOOL CRIB]

I am definitely No General Lee. I don't go to people's houses just to insult him. That's all he's doing when he comes to the regional board and brags about how we're all going to lose our jobs, and how great HIS CAPTAIN'S big ass 767 is.

Show me exactly where he does that. I'd like quotes and links please.

 

[79%N1]

He does do that. I have found since I started reading these boards he is very condescending and egotistical. He seems to revel in the misery or demise of others. He expounds his opinions like they are fact, ad nauseum.

He has a right, as it is a public forum. I just choose to ignore his garbage posts.

 

[79%N1]

Show me exactly where he does that. I'd like quotes and links please.

ARE YOU FREAKIN' KIDDING ME????

Probably 5,000 of his 10,000 posts are like that!!!!
(And no, I'm not going through them to link them to you)

 

[TOOL CRIB]

I think it's much more condescending to rag on a guy who posts a news article and doesn't even comment on it, just because you don't like the guy.

Fins just posted something about Comair cuts. Why aren't you guys ragging on him now?

 

[1013dot25hPa]

Maybe it's time to bring back the large turbo-props. Carry the same amount of passengers, only slightly slower at half the cost.

Who cares that passengers aren't crazy about flying props? If you don't give them a choice, jet or prop, they don't have an option and are thus forced to fly on the prop. After all the thing that really matters to a customer is #1 price of a ticket, #2 arriving on time WITH bags, #3 is service and #4 jet or prop.

In the end it is all about what the shareholders want and that is to turn a profit.

And maybe, just maybe, flying cheaper to operate aircraft means a raise of pilot wages?

Am I thinking too simple here?

 

[QueensPilot]

To the above poster, exactly. Why aren't airlines ordering q400s and ATRs?

 

[AceCrackshot]

To the above poster, exactly. Why aren't airlines ordering q400s and ATRs?

Two are...F9 and CO.

They also have a track record of being reasonably well run.

 

[General Lee]

ARE YOU FREAKIN' KIDDING ME????

Probably 5,000 of his 10,000 posts are like that!!!!
(And no, I'm not going through them to link them to you)

I slam everyone equally. First of all, I enjoy EVERY PART of this industry. I have many opinions on majors, LCCs, regionals, Cargo, Fractionals, etc. I enjoy each one. Am I critical? I don't think so. I say it like I see it. Guys like John Pennecamp can't take it because he can't debate me. He thinks I think I am never wrong. I have been wrong before, and usually admit it. But he won't debate me on any subject because he KNOWS I understand this industry and have facts to back up my stand. He can't do it. He resorts to insults, and actually says "I shouldn't come to his HOUSE (?) and insult him..." Give me a break. This is a public forum and debate is encouraged. I asked him what he thinks Ed Bastian should do about high oil and RJs, and he still hasn't responded. He can't, which is the point here. I am honestly waiting for some debate on that issue, and he can't come up with a plan of his own.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[~~~^~~~]

While everyone tries to ID the General, I think he is Neal Boortz.

 

[General Lee]

General,

Thank you for trying very hard to point out that the bad things that have happened to the delta pilot group are not the fault of the delta pilot group. Now please be a man and gulp down that it is also not the fault of the regional pilot groups. Blame it on your management or the Russians, but stop being an idiot and blaming it on us.

You do not make sense. I never blamed you pilots for the problems. The problem here is high oil and RJs. RJs cannot make enough money this time of the year on some routes when oil is this high. What is Ed Bastain doing about it? Parking them or not using them. Is that our fault? No. Is it your fault? No. Do you want our management to continue using high priced RJs during high oil and during the "slow season?" Do you? And where did I blame the regional pilots? Your airplanes do NOT MAKE MONEY during high oil and during the slow season on some routes. I am not the idiot here pal.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

No. You're not worth it. Go back to the majors board and cry in your scotch, loser.

I am not worth it, eh? You have no answers, and can't debate me because I am correct. I asked you a simple question on what you would do if you were Ed Bastian, and you can't do it. You can't. You know I am right, because your silence shows it.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

While everyone tries to ID the General, I think he is Neal Boortz.

You got me.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[list2002]

Call me crazy. I enjoy the General. If you have the time to drop the torches and pitch forks you may learn something.

 

[79%N1]

You are crazy!

 

[crjdxr]

Maybe it's time to bring back the large turbo-props. Carry the same amount of passengers, only slightly slower at half the cost.

Yep, it has been time for quite a long time. Since about $75/barrel-o'clock methinks.

 

[737 Pylt]

I am definitely No General Lee. I don't go to people's houses just to insult him. That's all he's doing when he comes to the regional board and brags about how we're all going to lose our jobs, and how great HIS CAPTAIN'S big ass 767 is.

Oh this is rich, coming from you!

How about your famous quote from the Gulfstream thread!

Jackass? Who's the jackass? Um, you walked away from jet PIC and $65K a year to fly a 1900 at a PFT airline with a bunch of kids, pal. Just pointing out that your decision wasn't for everyone, as you seemed to promote. You didn't even make a lateral move, you moved down. Good luck getting hired anywhere but a regional with all that 1900 pic time.

Nothing like being a hypocrite, eh johnny boy?
You don't even need to leave the regionals to try and make yourself feel superior!
What a tool!
And yes, you are a JACKASS!

737

 

[time builder]

Call me crazy. I enjoy the General. If you have the time to drop the torches and pitch forks you may learn something.

I hate to be inflamatory, but I'm with you. Why do people take him so personally? They say they ignore him but it's obvious that they don't.

BTW, regardless of the General's personal take on this issue, it is a key issue in our industry. If you've got a personal stake in the success of your regional airline, so be it, but it doesn't change the facts or the way Major airline managements operate.

If anything, regional guys should really be concerned with this. There is a significant fuel efficiency factor that favors going with the majors. Don't believe me? Let me show you an example (if the figures are slightly off forgive me, but I'll try to be as accurate as possible):

CRJ-200: roughly 3000 lbs per hour, about 50 seats
737-800: say 5500 lbs per hour and 150 seats.

9 CRJS on a 1 hour leg: 24,000 pounds burned
3 737s on the same leg: 16,500 pounds burned.
Same number of seats in either case.

7,500 pounds is about 1100 gallons ($2.50 per gallon)
Total Savings: $2750

You can argue as much as you want about the loss of revenue (as if they're having a hard time breaking 80% on the majority of flights now days), and the cost of labor (the gap between Majors and Regionals has seriously shrunk in the last few years, want examples? Maybe you can provide them on your own). These things are no longer compensating for the fuel savings of going large, and thus things are changing, starting with Delta.

You can get in a yuh huh, nuh uh, style argument for 10 pages, but if you want to counter this, please prove me wrong with relevant evidence, and we can have a productive discussion, I'm up for learning something new.

Bear in mind, I fly cargo, so I'm somewhat of an unbiased outsider here, but I'm still part of the industry so I'm very interested in what is going to happen.

 

[John Pennekamp]

General Lee/737 Pylt (since we all know you're the same person), it's not that I can't debate you about Ed Bastian or whatever you're babbling about, it's that I won't. I have no value of your opinion nor "knowledge" of the industry, and you have no value in mine. No matter what, we will never agree. A debate is pointless, it only fans the flames and stokes your ego. I won't do it. If you want to take my silence that you "won" go for it. You win. You clearly need that more than I do.

 

[General Lee]

General Lee/737 Pylt (since we all know you're the same person), it's not that I can't debate you about Ed Bastian or whatever you're babbling about, it's that I won't. I have no value of your opinion nor "knowledge" of the industry, and you have no value in mine. No matter what, we will never agree. A debate is pointless, it only fans the flames and stokes your ego. I won't do it. If you want to take my silence that you "won" go for it. You win. You clearly need that more than I do.

Ok John, if that is the way you want it. I was just really interested in what YOU THOUGHT about this issue. See, I can LISTEN. If you don't want to give your opinion on what Ed Bastain or Delta could do differently, then don't do it. You are right, I may have an answer to yours, but that's all good in the world of debate. If you don't know what to do or what to say, then I can understand that too, although I always have something to say regardless.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[JustaNumber]

If anything, regional guys should really be concerned with this. There is a significant fuel efficiency factor that favors going with the majors. Don't believe me? Let me show you an example (if the figures are slightly off forgive me, but I'll try to be as accurate as possible):

CRJ-200: roughly 3000 lbs per hour, about 50 seats
737-800: say 5500 lbs per hour and 150 seats.

9 CRJS on a 1 hour leg: 24,000 pounds burned
3 737s on the same leg: 16,500 pounds burned.
Same number of seats in either case.

7,500 pounds is about 1100 gallons ($2.50 per gallon)
Total Savings: $2750

You're logic is correct in your direct comparison, but unfortunately the industry is much more complicated. It's all about matching capacity with demand.

Let's say you have 50 people per day who want to fly from Dothan to Moscow. (Hey, you never know). If you're the only game in town that can offer that city pair, you stand to make a nice profit. But you don't put a 767 on that direct route, you put a 50 seat RJ from Dothan to Atlanta, and a 767 from Atlanta to Moscow (along with other pax from other parts of the country). Both flights are full, and the airline makes money.