Yep I knew this would back me into a corrner. First I'm far from MGT and nowhere near as big an A$$HOLE COCK SUCKER that BEXFlyrer is.
Listen the industry is drastically changing. Whats the biggest factor you ask, the entrance of low cost carriers and yes SWA is driving it with expansion coupled with less pax due to 911 and the economy. Back in 1991 low cost carriers made up <10% of the pax traffic. Now post 911 its like 45% and climbing. The trunk airlines can't continue the way they have. The way we have, you ask? Yes making a boatload of $$$ in the good years enough to make it thru the bad years (this is historically how all the trunk airlines have survived (except SWA) even pre dereg.)
Well boys in the next "good years" the Trunk guys won't make as much $$$$. Again why you ask? Because of all the JB, SWA. Airtran...ect. Also further hurting the Big guys is the attitude that the public just won't deal with skyhigh ticket prices anymore. We will get some back when the economy picks up but not as much as we used to or need to carry us. And my friends as much as I hate his MGT a$$ Seagull and the rest of the suits realize this. Hence the change, and unfortunatly for us PILOTS not good. Does this mean we all should be like JB or SWA? no again that won't work, we've seen this (metrojet, UAL shuttle). However what we (trunk/major carriers) need to do is continue a vast or larger route system than the low cost boys (same as offering more destination options) but our pax load are lower. Why? you guessed it, more and growing JB and SWA companies taking our pax. So no more MD80 between PHL-AVP, here comes the 50 seat RJ. Where's the prob we have today you ask? Well years ago when the low cost guys came to play and the CRJ came on the scene the Major guys and ALPA failed to see what was happening. They had stars in their eyes and dreams of widebodies for all. But it just isn't so, am I not correct? Its not just us the pilots that need to rethink pay, look at the ramp guys (using U mainline ramp workers here). Come on 60 grand a year to sling bags, sleep, and wave wands. OOPS waving wands and driving a tug is a job for a mechanic, whatever. I think thats the only thing I'll ever agree with Lorenzo on. FA's too, Also gate agents.
Final word: Listen I'd like to see all airline worers, he1l all workers everywhere for that fact get paid and laid with the big bucks, but the way I see it (read again JUST THE WAY I SEE IT)- myself just me so don't call me an A$$ hole, MGT dork, inexperienced "new to aviation" yah whatever Airlinepilot27, or anything else - isn't going to happen, there are just so many people flying any too many seats out there, something like that supply and demand crap we slept thru in college.
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Listen the industry is drastically changing. Whats the biggest factor you ask, the entrance of low cost carriers and yes SWA is driving it with expansion coupled with less pax due to 911 and the economy. Back in 1991 low cost carriers made up <10% of the pax traffic. Now post 911 its like 45% and climbing. The trunk airlines can't continue the way they have. The way we have, you ask? Yes making a boatload of $$$ in the good years enough to make it thru the bad years (this is historically how all the trunk airlines have survived (except SWA) even pre dereg.)
Well boys in the next "good years" the Trunk guys won't make as much $$$$. Again why you ask? Because of all the JB, SWA. Airtran...ect. Also further hurting the Big guys is the attitude that the public just won't deal with skyhigh ticket prices anymore. We will get some back when the economy picks up but not as much as we used to or need to carry us. And my friends as much as I hate his MGT a$$ Seagull and the rest of the suits realize this. Hence the change, and unfortunatly for us PILOTS not good. Does this mean we all should be like JB or SWA? no again that won't work, we've seen this (metrojet, UAL shuttle). However what we (trunk/major carriers) need to do is continue a vast or larger route system than the low cost boys (same as offering more destination options) but our pax load are lower. Why? you guessed it, more and growing JB and SWA companies taking our pax. So no more MD80 between PHL-AVP, here comes the 50 seat RJ. Where's the prob we have today you ask? Well years ago when the low cost guys came to play and the CRJ came on the scene the Major guys and ALPA failed to see what was happening. They had stars in their eyes and dreams of widebodies for all. But it just isn't so, am I not correct? Its not just us the pilots that need to rethink pay, look at the ramp guys (using U mainline ramp workers here). Come on 60 grand a year to sling bags, sleep, and wave wands. OOPS waving wands and driving a tug is a job for a mechanic, whatever. I think thats the only thing I'll ever agree with Lorenzo on. FA's too, Also gate agents.
Final word: Listen I'd like to see all airline worers, he1l all workers everywhere for that fact get paid and laid with the big bucks, but the way I see it (read again JUST THE WAY I SEE IT)- myself just me so don't call me an A$$ hole, MGT dork, inexperienced "new to aviation" yah whatever Airlinepilot27, or anything else - isn't going to happen, there are just so many people flying any too many seats out there, something like that supply and demand crap we slept thru in college.
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