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AA717driver

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All you junior AA S80 pukes can do your part to help keep people on the street AND make management look good... er, how about "not look so bad" at the same time:

"UPDATED BY CREW RESOURCES 22JUL05--------------------------------------------------------------------------------22JUL05/1256ATTENTION S80 PILOTS TO ADDRESS THE POSSIBILITY OF CREW SHORTAGES IN THE S80 FIRST OFFICER BID STATUS ON SOME REMAINING DAYS IN JULY,WE MAY UTILIZE THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 18.G.2.B. OF THE CONTRACT. S80 FIRST OFFICERS, BOTH RESERVE AND REGULARLY SCHEDULED, MAY OPT TO FLY ON DUTY FREE PERIODS FOR PREMIUM PAY. THE PROCEDURES INCLUDING THE PROPER METHOD OF VOLUNTEERING CAN BE FOUND ON THE AAPILOTS WEBSITE. CLICK ON ***NEWS FROM FLIGHT*** AND THEN CLICKON ***PREMIUM PAY PROCEDURES***. WHEN THE DECISION IS MADE TO IMPLEMENT THESE PROCEDURES WE WILL NOTIFY THE AFFECTED BID STATUSES VIA HI6 MESSAGE. J.A. LA MORTE OPS PLNG 7/22/05"

So suck it up, do your part AND pocket some extra coin in July. :rolleyes:TC
 
I don't think anyone will, they didn't have a very receptive welcome last time they tried this. As for me, I am sick, and at home resting...

AA
 
Dangerkitty said:
I went to www.aapilots.com and put in my preferences for the Premium flying option.

But considering my 3XP status is DFW/// I dont think it will do me any good.:rolleyes:

Yeah, they have 2,800 people in the same status as you who could help them out...

AAflyer--Sorry to hear about your illness. Get well at your leisure! :D TC
 
Hope they have to cancel flights and that the Monday Morning meetings get heated with finger pointing, all the way up to the kiss-ass manager of crew-planning who "saved" hundreds of thousands of $s by recommending further furloughs..


If Arprey or his deputies have any dangel-berries, they will pick up the telephone and say we screwed up, lets start re-calling now.

Fat chance, in the meantime I would call in sick too if I was still on the property.
Thanks Mr. AAflyer, we need more resting guys like ya and less sluts:

The 83 hour / month guys may be sitting on a gold-mine, but won't last forever:

Heck, the union should publish a list on the furlough forum of the mini-scabs that keep stealing jobs by volunteering for more flying and money.

Hmm, I may link this topic over to the APA page.

Consider it done.
 
Hopefully any guy picking up time at premium pay will also be contributing to the furlough fund.
Unfortunetly, that is not the kind of contribution the furloughees need...

Later, (Sooner hopefully)
 
I'm still a volunteer!

To bypass, that is. Oops, volunteered for the wrong thing again.

If anybody toadies up and soaks up the extra time I won't have to worry about that for a while longer.

"Show your concern for furloughed pilots by contributing to the furloughed pilot's fund!"

"Then fill up on premium pay! All for one, and err... how did that go again?"

Yeah, help out the furloughed pilot's fund by letting us have the loan for free that much longer... :) And the APA life insurance too.

I had to stop and think... What the heck is a 3XP??? Then I remembered it has something to do with AA, so I must have flushed it and all of the other techno babble crud.

Furlough me once, shame on you - But you furloughed me twice so screw you AA!
 
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Thank you AAflyer and those like you who are unavailable for extra flying while your coworkers are on the street. Thumbs way up.
 
Nothing better than a little "light of day" to shine on those who get greedy. We see their schedules and projected monthly hours on bulletin boards at the hubs by fellow pilots. Works for all but the future scabs in training.
 
Well...

I can see how that might work at some carriers, but at AA the pilots that picked up a lot of time would probably get calls from their peers asking how they could do the same. :rolleyes:
 
There are even a few of my "highly respected" former TWA homies picking up extra time. Yeah, we know who they are, too. :cool: (Generally, they are those who came to TWA through an earlier merger...)

Hope someone in STL is working up a big brown torpedo for their flight kit! :eek:

Take care all.TC
 
Starlizard said:
Thank you AAflyer and those like you who are unavailable for extra flying while your coworkers are on the street. Thumbs way up.

Nice Avtar Starlizard.

Just traded a 4 day for a 2 day. Take that Roy Everett! (VP of Crew Planning)
 
Here at CRAAPA headquarters we are doing our best to encourage all our members to fly as much as possible. This will enable us to 1. Save the Company, which leads to 2. Bonuses for upper and middle management, which leads to the ultimate goal of 3. Cushy management jobs for me and my peeps. While I personally believe it would be an honor to be highlighted on the trough board, be aware that any attempt to vilify those who are giving their all will be met with harsh consequences. The company has strict rules about such things and as an ASSociation we have no other course of action but to report violations immediately. This is especially true in our management domiciles at DFW, ORD, BOS, and DCA. Well, gotta check the open time cuz "I feel the need, the need for greed". This has been a CRAAPA pubic service announcement.
 
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UAL78 said:
Nothing better than a little "light of day" to shine on those who get greedy. We see their schedules and projected monthly hours on bulletin boards at the hubs by fellow pilots. Works for all but the future scabs in training.


Wow,

I thought your schedules were already built to 95 hours a month, how the heck do you pick up on top of that..

AA
 
You know I offen hear "fly the contract",well whats the diff ? Can't have it both ways guys. Stuff like that has to come out of the contract before you will see any results. Maybe a no hightime with people on the street clause.
 
UAL Scheds

When they were building the schedules, TED ones were fairly high-time compared to the rest of the operation. The poor reserves were getting killed because of the QOL issues and absenteeism.

On the mainline, there are still those who are able to sharpshoot and build up their lines. PBS has made open flying almost nonexistent. Draw your own conclusions.

As the summer progresses and preferential bidding goes out systemwide, everyone will be accountable for what it is that they're flying- especially how much.

BTW more people have been boned by the nuances of the PBS in the early phase than in a 2 dollar cathouse.

Be Well
 
filejw said:
You know I offen hear "fly the contract",well whats the diff ? Can't have it both ways guys. Stuff like that has to come out of the contract before you will see any results. Maybe a no hightime with people on the street clause.

Tell you what, the copmany seems to regularly "break the contract", so maybe you could do the same and "not fly the contract to the word".

I don't condemn and we each do our own things for own reasons. This was the contract 69% of us agreed to, so make it work for you. However I have to draw the line at the "premium flying". The union asked the company not to furlough as we would be short, they didn't listen, furloughed and we were short. The company has cancelled block hours, and asked us to premium fly in the exact divisions we furloughed from...Things that make you go hmmmmm.

I wouldn't have a problem with premium flying if we were hiring and couldn't keep up with all the flying, but this is a 180 from that, and I guess I would tend to look at the "spirit" in which it was designed. Remember a dAAy for a dAAy?

Nobody can stop you are anyone else from picking it up, and I wouldn't label you or anyone else a SCAB for doing it. It is unprofessional at a minimum, however ssing that term is just as silly as calling our flowbacks SCABS, or calling the CHQ pilots SCABS for taking flying from Eagle, or even as dispicable as it is "*************************s". A SCAB is a person who will seek out and cross a picket line. Feel free to use any other word in the dictionary (in fact I could think of a few not in the dictionary
:D ), but let's save SCAB for what it really is..

IMHO,

AA
 
UAL78 said:
When they were building the schedules, TED ones were fairly high-time compared to the rest of the operation. The poor reserves were getting killed because of the QOL issues and absenteeism.

On the mainline, there are still those who are able to sharpshoot and build up their lines. PBS has made open flying almost nonexistent. Draw your own conclusions.

As the summer progresses and preferential bidding goes out systemwide, everyone will be accountable for what it is that they're flying- especially how much.

BTW more people have been boned by the nuances of the PBS in the early phase than in a 2 dollar cathouse.

Be Well


UAL,

With your permission I would like to cut and paste your post over to our union website.. Many realize the damage it will do, but some think we need it be competitive.. PBS could work if it were implemented the way the pilots would like it to be, but if management does, hold on to your pants....

AA
 
>>I would call in sick too if I was still on the property.<<

And people wonder why these airlines are losing money.

It doesn't take an MBA to figure out that the productive airlines are the ones hiring and the unproductive ones are the ones furloughing.
A paycheck isn't an entitlement.
 
Actually I am sick.... Would you like a doctors note?


AA

P.S. AA made money last quarter, and we have guys on furlough, so there goes that theory, maybe you should go get your MBA..
 
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