Hellonewman

[SkyNation]

congrats on moving on. where are you going to?

 

[DX Rick]

Yes, Airtran puts up a list in their crew lounge of pilots up for interviews and lets any and all line pilots comment either positive or negative things about those people. Frankly I think all airlines should do this. It's a small enough community that collectively we ought to be able to do a little tool-control.

-Blucher

This is a great idea, but it would suck to have the same name as a hated man.
They should have the pilots name, and which airline he is coming from, especially places like GIA and TAB.

 

[Blucher]

This is a great idea, but it would suck to have the same name as a hated man.
They should have the pilots name, and which airline he is coming from, especially places like GIA and TAB.

That's a good point. Also, the system isn't fool proof, by any means. One of the worst pilots I've ever had the pleasure of flying with managed to get on at Airtran without getting the thumbs down. When I saw this person in an Airtran uniform I immediately called some buddies over there to ask why said person was hired. ALL of them responded, "what??!?!? If I had know that name was on the list I would have made damn sure ____ hadn't gotten on!" So you see, for the system to work, good communication is the key.

-Blucher

 

[Jmoney]

You've got to be kidding!

Seriously....
I really like the idea of doing that list, but how long has Air Tran been doing this? The super-ultra-mecha-king of all tools at ASA got hired there about a year or so ago. EVERYONE hated this guy, and a lot of people who knew what an idiot he was were flying there already. It would be a surprise to know that he got past a "tool list"
-WOW

 

[skypine69]

i have not decided yet.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Not a die-hard ALPA guy, but I have volunteered for my MEC and LEC.

Just wanted to point out that most often, line pilots do not hire other line pilots - human resources representatives do. Unless there is a Captain's Board or candidate names are posted for employees to comment on, there is no medium by which for current employees to object to the hiring of another.

Good for your former coworkers (Chicago Express, right?) that have moved on, and I seriously mean that. I'm sure their goal was PIC time and progress...I just wish they hadn't done that on the backs of TSA pilots. After 2 years of working for Hulas with no contract, I'd want the hell out of there too...

True fact,
But they man the sims and do lots of line checks and observations, and probationary pilots are not immune from the termination without recourse!
Use your imagination, those "coworkers" are not your friend they are the enemy and will stick a spear into your back for any number of reasons, them and their spawn deserve to live in govt. trailers. Fukkem! Welfare is too good for them!
PBR

 

[DX Rick]

True fact,
But they man the sims and do lots of line checks and observations, and probationary pilots are not immune from the termination without recourse!
Use your imagination, those "coworkers" are not your friend they are the enemy and will stick a spear into your back for any number of reasons, them and their spawn deserve to live in govt. trailers. Fukkem! Welfare is too good for them!
PBR

There you go again, making sexual reference towards men. Something you want to tell us? just messing with ya!

All I'm saying is that some ALPA guys at the regional level are threatening the future careers of anyone who thinks differently about ALPA. But when these guys who were from Freedoms A-Listers, GoJet and the likes head to the majors, especially majors that are ALPA, they get hired on. We all know Line pilots sit in on the interview, and can sway HR's decisons either way. Why aren't they? It's not like the majors have to hire everyone off the street like the regionals do. They have a nice crop to pick from.



PS
PCL_128 is a GIA troll.

 

[Fred Rogers]

ha ha.. a "Tool List" I wish everything had that. I could use that for many every day things.

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Seriously....
I really like the idea of doing that list, but how long has Air Tran been doing this? The super-ultra-mecha-king of all tools at ASA got hired there about a year or so ago. EVERYONE hated this guy, and a lot of people who knew what an idiot he was were flying there already. It would be a surprise to know that he got past a "tool list"
-WOW

Lemme guess.. C.D., right?

 

[skypine69]

i whink we are forgeting that newwomen wont answer the question. havent seen him on here....maybe he is scared that he jacked up his shot at a "major"

 

[HelloNewman]

hey newwoman,

how come you cant answer the question about your interview at Continental? Are you going to tell the interviewer about you hatred of unions? You say that all you have to do is tell the interviewer what they want to hear? In order to have a pilot certificate one has to be of good moral judgement. Do you think that lying to the interview team meets that qualification?
How come you are applying to another airline? is it because they have better pay and work rules? if so, how do you think those came about?

simple questions...

thanks

I have been busy with interview related things so here are your answers.

I will not discuss anything related to unions at my interview period. Unions are not a relevant topic for an interview since membership is optional not required. This is an interview to be a pilot not about politics and unions.

I will not be lying to an interviewer because I doubt they will ask me anything about unions anyway. It ain't lyin if they don't ask me. In all the gouge I have read I have never seen one question about your beliefs on unions. Those type of questions rightfully stay out of interviews.

I am applying to another airline well duh they have better payrates. In order to be control of my own destiny I must work for an airline that is not tied like an anchor to other major airlines. I must work for an airline that makes its own money not one that relies on fee per departure.

This is the last time I will mention anything until I either get the job or not. I will not mention class dates, I will not mention interview dates. In fact I may have already had it you never know. I am not letting some FI blowhards try to ruin my hard earned shot at a major just because they disagree with me. Hope this clears things up.

 

[Shrek]

I am sure your true "self" will come out at the interview.

 

[skypine69]

"they have better payrates"

Again, how do you think they got those better payrates? Was it because management felt bad for the pilots?

 

[HelloNewman]

"they have better payrates"

Again, how do you think they got those better payrates? Was it because management felt bad for the pilots?

The union got them because they used to have the power to strike. They no longer have this power which is why they are pretty much pointless now a days. Financially sustainable numbers are what should.

Lets get back the that moral thing you mentioned.

In order to have a pilot certificate one has to be of good moral judgement. Do you think that lying to the interview team meets that qualification?

What a general statement to make. How about all the pilots that cheat on their wives? What about guys who don't mention what skeletons they have in their closet during the interview? Trust me that whole moral character thing is a joke. If they actually held to that standard half the pilots would be disqualified because they are out cheating on their wives with the f/as.

 

[Mookie]

I have been busy with interview related things so here are your answers.

I will not discuss anything related to unions at my interview period. Unions are not a relevant topic for an interview since membership is optional not required. This is an interview to be a pilot not about politics and unions.

I will not be lying to an interviewer because I doubt they will ask me anything about unions anyway. It ain't lyin if they don't ask me. In all the gouge I have read I have never seen one question about your beliefs on unions. Those type of questions rightfully stay out of interviews.

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They will definitely ask about unions, and if you have any brains, you will train yourself to give a good "I love unions" answer. And it is RELEVANT to being a good pilot. do you think that any one of the 4000 guys at that airline will want to fly with someone who is not a member of the union? sounds like a pretty quiet 4 day trip to me.

Mookie

 

[HelloNewman]

They will definitely ask about unions, and if you have any brains, you will train yourself to give a good "I love unions" answer. And it is RELEVANT to being a good pilot. do you think that any one of the 4000 guys at that airline will want to fly with someone who is not a member of the union? sounds like a pretty quiet 4 day trip to me.

Mookie

hmmmm tahats funny never heard of that before. It is not relevant to being a pilot at all. There are quite a few people at every airline that choose not to be members. Remember membership is optional. That is one of the benefits of being part of this great country you don't have to join anything you don't want. Sure you may have to pay fees but you still don't have to do anything to do with it. You can still let everyone else do all the work.

On the off chance I am asked about unions I will tell them what they want to hear of course. "Unions are important to giving us a collective voice to protect our careers. Without unions we wouldn't be where we were today." It is easy telling people what they want to hear. I will be a good little union soldier for my first year. Once I am off probation I will refuse to join and let my true self come out. For the interview though its all about telling them what they want to hear about unions while making it sound genuine. Trust me I have had acting experience before. That is all an interview really is, putting on an act. It is like being in a play.

 

[Fred Rogers]

Sure you may have to pay fees but you still don't have to do anything to do with it. You can still let everyone else do all the work.

"Unions are important to giving us a collective voice to protect our careers. Without unions we wouldn't be where we were today."

You said it.

Totally willing to take a free ride. At least your personality is consistant. You do acknowlege that there is work involved which leads me to believe you do, on some level, understand the significance.



www.alpa.org/colgan

 

[Thedude]

Your experiences are different than mine, then; I only once saw a line pilot during my interview process. Management pilots, now that is another story entirely!

Out of curiosity, how many airline interviews have you been to in the last 10 yrs?

 

[BoilerUP]

Out of curiosity, how many airline interviews have you been to in the last 10 yrs?

Five.