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capt_zman

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Was offered a position flying a BE400 today for a 91/135 company. When I inquired about upgrade, I was told that "due to insurance mins, we have a 25,000 hr requirement for PIC's."

Ok, I'm 32 and if I fly 1000 hours per year, I can upgrade when I'm 54. Geez, I must be special to land a winner like this.
 

Snakum

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I guess I just don't understand this ...

I know of a small 135 company (3 Citations, 1 BE400, 2 BE200s) that can put an FO in the right-hand seat of any aircraft at 500 hours and a Captain in the left seat of everything, including the C650 at 2500 hrs.

This is a huge difference, any ideas why? If 25,000 hours for PIC is where everyone's heading I see alot of companies going outa business.

Minh
 

hobbsmeter

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Hmm...

Are you sure the person you spoke with wasn't mistaken? Maybe you spoke with someone who wasn't "in the know" and quoted 25000 when he/she meant 2500. Just a thought, for your sake I hope they're wrong
 

capt_zman

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I spoke with the owner. Also confirmed with a 10k hour SIC. Owner said that because of the "clientele they fly", that was the requirement. I'm assuming that if this is true, there must be some pretty important people flying on these airplanes. I'm interested to see exactly who they are.

I flew Hillary a while back, isn't she the most important person in the world? :) What gives?
 

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I know of a Conquest operator who needs 5,000 in type for PIC insurance coverage.

This is getting crazy.
 

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Sounds like a typical old-timer. Thinking that it's the space shuttle. I know that I am probably will get flamed for the first comment but oh well. That is kind of what it is like around here where I fly. All the older guys around here seem to think that you need a million hours to fly a turbine aircraft. That's just a bunch of bull. 25k to fly a beechjet. I don't care if the president is in the back you don't need that much. And by the way Hillary isn't important at all. By that's just my 2 cents.
 

capt_zman

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Notice the smily face by the end of the Hillary comment.

Talk about important people, I flew a bunch of strippers back and forth from a golf tournament a couple of weeks ago. They looked great going down but coming back, Hillary and/or Chelsea would have looked like a beauty queen.
 

Dep676

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Yeah I knew you were just kidding about Hillary. So the strippers were rode hard and but away wet huh? So were the strippers for Tiger? ;) Maybe that's way he won.
 

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If you fly the pope around, you have to call ahead to the FBO and have them clean a section of ramp, so he can kiss it.

He does that every time....
 

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I'm sure the insurance is cheaper for the owner/operator if he puts a 25,000+ hour captain on board. Rediculous if you ask me! Just because you have that much time, it doesn't necessarily mean that you are a safer pilot. That's my .02 anyway.
 

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25K hours???

:confused:

Huh?? That sounds awfully high. There are 25,000 hour pilots, but they don't exactly grow on trees.

We all know the insurance industry runs our industry, but surely there must be other jobs with less stringent insurance mins.
 

capt_zman

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I'm sure there are multiple reasons behind this. I don't know. He said that I'd be off to FlightSafety for SIC training (he says 13k for this) next week. Maybe I'll negotiate with him to pay for the full type and I'll be able to fly deadheads.

If not, I think I'll pass.
 

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I have to think that if you have 25,000 hrs and you have to take a full time 135 job flying a BeechJet around you must either be a glutton for pain or have a lot of accidents and couple of DUIs on your record.

They must either have a poor accident record or their insurance is $39 a month. At my company the mins are 1500 for PIC Jet with Simuflite and no mins for FOs

Ok. All the 25,000 hr BeechJet pilots can hose me now. Watch now there will be hundreds of them out there

By the way the SIC check at Simuflite isnt 13k. Probably closer to 8k and the type is around 14k. The retail price is higher but nobody who flies 135 is paying retail. My Westwind type when combined with my recurrent was $6600 and my Hawker SIC initial was $8800
 

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If you fly the pope around, you have to call ahead to the FBO and have them clean a section of ramp, so he can kiss it. He does that every time....


Funny, most of the people I fly around get out and kiss the ground too! They pray a lot too, but that's during the flight.


S.
 

JediNein

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Pope

That's cause he read the line in the Bible that states "Lo, I am with you."



Avoiding +TSRA at all costs for a week now. . . . so I don't get hit by lightning.


Fly SAFE!
Jedi Nein
 

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Talk about wank factor!! I see Singaporean guys come into the right seat of 747-400/A340 with less than 300hrs total and me still beleive that Singapore Airlines is in the top 3 of the worlds best airlines - I'm biased though!!

This is all too common in aviation though - some guy has done it tough to get where he is, so he makes it tough on the the other guys who want to get there. It's an ego thing, and fortunatley that kind of moronic attitude is dissapearing amongst all the worlds top airlines.

Though I do think it's funny that Second Officers are sexual advisers to the captain!! "if I want your F&^&^G advice then I'll ask for it!!"

If anyone tells you that **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**e in future tell them to remove the right hand off the penis - they'll go blind!!
 

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Into the Foster's a bit early today, are we? ;)

Hard to believe Singapore is putting in 300 hour FO's. Is that 100 hours of flying and 200 hours of automation training?
 
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