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Hawaiian updates?

jmt

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So anybody got the call for the november class yet? It's been pretty quiet these past few weeks...
 

Ainokea

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More interviews have been done since the initial posting in July. I would have to say probably 200+...not to mention all those that have done phase 2 last year. How many pilots are they looking for anyways? HAL or Dan...anything new that you can pass onto all of us?
 

jmt

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I interviewed last year, then again 3 months ago. I was told that I'm in the pool, but my guess is that I 'll probably interview again next year if I don't get the call by next july! If you 're not currently flying somewhere else, I think your chance of getting called is minimal.
 
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HAL

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Nothing new since my last talk with the Chief Pilot. I think it's closer to 125 or so that have interviewed so far though, not 200, although they may get closer to 200 by the time they're done. Again, he did say that if you haven't heard anything yet, it just means you're still in the pool. They don't expect to do any more interviewing once this cycle is done, and since they hope to hire upwards of 100+ within the next two years, I'd say that if you have interviewed, your chances of (eventually) getting on are pretty good. Remember, that's 125 interviewed so far out of 2000+ applications received. If you did get the call for an interview, you're already close to the top of the heap. If they follow their previous pattern, calls for the November class should be going out during the second or third week of October (rough estimate).

Beyond that, I don't know much more. All of the actual process, short of the final decision, is being done by the HR department. And to us pilots, they're locked up tighter than Fort Knox. I wish it wasn't that way, but unfortunately it is. If you've interviewed and haven't heard anything yet, my apologies. But eventually you should hear something - I just don't know when.

HAL
 

Ainokea

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Found out calls were made this past week. Congrats to the 10 who got them. Still floating...
 

Full of LUV

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Well see there....

JAL, ATA, PSA, GoJets, Mesa, 4AQ, WP

I heard

Seeing that they will take Mesa and gojets pilots, this is proof that their are no grudges when it comes to a pilots pedigree.

Therefore, cajoling pilots into not accepting a low paying job will not work, and the industry has to do more to bring up the pay for the bottom feeding jobs than worry about who will take that job.
 

FLYN4LVE

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Seeing that they will take Mesa and gojets pilots, this is proof that their are no grudges when it comes to a pilots pedigree.

Therefore, cajoling pilots into not accepting a low paying job will not work, and the industry has to do more to bring up the pay for the bottom feeding jobs than worry about who will take that job.

Unless they are relatives............
 

Dan Roman

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Hawaiian has been hiring from various backgrounds with great success. The ex AQ, relatives, Regional, military etc pilots they have hired all have one thing in common. They prevailed in an incredibly competitive process. A lot of energy has gone into hiring from various backgrounds and demographics with an attempt at trying not to leave any demographic out.
They have hired really high quality pilots, unfortunately, they can't possibly hire all the high quality people out there. The ones who sound like sour grapes about who they are hiring are a good example of people they are trying to avoid.
 

Full of LUV

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Not sour grapes....

Hawaiian has been hiring from various backgrounds with great success. The ex AQ, relatives, Regional, military etc pilots they have hired all have one thing in common. They prevailed in an incredibly competitive process. A lot of energy has gone into hiring from various backgrounds and demographics with an attempt at trying not to leave any demographic out.
They have hired really high quality pilots, unfortunately, they can't possibly hire all the high quality people out there. The ones who sound like sour grapes about who they are hiring are a good example of people they are trying to avoid.

Dan,
It's not so much sour grapes but to show those who think brow beating junior pilots into avoiding companies that pay low but offer quick upgrades etc will keep the regional pay rates in check are wrong.
Truth is, most of the major pilots involved in the hiring at many of the companies, and especially the HR types know little to nothing about the difference between a Mesa, Gojet, or RAH pilot. All they know to look for is PIC and previous success.
I'm glad Hawaiian looks for different backgrounds, if I were choosing the pilots, I'd do the same.
 
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