Hawaiian recalls?

[mdanno808]

What flight are you looking to jumpseat on?

 

[FlickerFade]

To try to head off a "my airline has tougher route structure wx than yours" thread...........


The point is that HAL's operational performance has taken a 180 degree turn over the past few years. With new aircraft, technology, operational leadership, employee action, etc., etc., This record of ontime performance is a dramatic improvement.

Re: the low complaints and baggage loss, this is a stronger stat to stack up against other carriers.

Ultimately, even taken in a closed system, Hawaiian Air is doing a good job at being a full-service airline.

Now get me some more 767's!!!!!!!!!! (and get that 787 order in while Boeing is still in a bargaining mood).

 

[Erndogg]

I know this might be the wrong thread for this but since there are a bunch of Hawaiian pilot here I would at least try. How many jumpseaters do you take? And are the loads always very high or are there at least a few seats om most flights. Thanks in advance...

B-Longhorn

We are in the process right now of implementing the CASS system. Once we incorporate it (hopefully by the end of the year) we can take 2 jumps on the 767 and 1 on 717 (interisland).
Right now we can only cabin seat (if avialiable). I would try LAX-HNL on flight 9 (good non-rev avialiability in most cases) it departs at 6:25 p.m. local time PDT Daily .

 

[Dan Roman]

Just to clarify, we can take as many jumpseaters as available seats in the back. Sometimes PDX has seats, especially on the days they have a second flight to OGG. It's hit or miss, you can get stuck for a week or you can get on when you least expect it. Good luck.

 

[Dan Roman]

By the way flickerfade. You mentioned 787's. A station manager said at a recent monthly meeting they hold for all the station managers Dunkerly spent a lot of time explaining why the next generation aircraft are so important to Hawaiian. The 40% fuel savings are a big deal (no surprise there). It seems they want to expand as much as they can IF they can find the right airplanes, but they are definetly looking long range.

 

[mdanno808]

787's? WTF? Better focus on used 767's right now don't you think? BTW, what's the deal with the 2 AC that HAL has a letter of agreement to lease? Is it true that HAL was outbid, or is that still unverified?

Do any of you guys know what happens if a person is not recalled within the 6 years? Is an extension possible, or do you without question lose the longevity you had gained until the furlough?

 

[Erndogg]

787's? WTF? Better focus on used 767's right now don't you think? BTW, what's the deal with the 2 AC that HAL has a letter of agreement to lease? Is it true that HAL was outbid, or is that still unverified?

Rumor going around work is YES they did get outbid and decided to fold up their tent for the next bid.
Stayed tuned if there is any mention of it this Tues 8/9???

 

[FlickerFade]

reference my earlier post in this string: we'll hear a rumor, debate it to death, then it never happens. Apply this to every 767 acquisition rumor that has come out.

 

[Freight Dog]

Just to clarify, we can take as many jumpseaters as available seats in the back. Sometimes PDX has seats, especially on the days they have a second flight to OGG. It's hit or miss, you can get stuck for a week or you can get on when you least expect it. Good luck.

Are you guys gonna be in CASS?

 

[Whale Rider]

Pualani's livery would look right at home on a 744 brah!.....

 

[Erndogg]

reference my earlier post in this string: we'll hear a rumor, debate it to death, then it never happens. Apply this to every 767 acquisition rumor that has come out.

Pesident Dunks latest hotline message is that we got outbid for 1 767 and we are bidding for a total of 6-from another source.

He mentioned North American pulling out of the Hawaii market to shift their planes to more profitable Charter operations.

Delta's new nonstop route to KOA was also brought up and how it would effect our interisle market. Dunk said that aquiring more aircraft was one of the more inportant issues and he would have more news soon.

Dunks comments are not RUMORS they are facts. Hopefully we win some of these bids and bring the guys back soon.


Whale Rider-Who is Roth going to throw the ball to this season???
NO Ward No Buress-who's left???

 

[Whale Rider]

Whale Rider-Who is Roth going to throw the ball to this season???
NO Ward No Buress-who's left???

Hines Ward and Antwan Randle El are still there, However I think its going to be 80% Ground Attack 20% Air Attack.

 

[FlickerFade]

Thks Ernd..

Just listened to the Exec. line. MD mentioned 1 767 bid that fell through, that it the first official word I've heard about any bids, the rumors were way more speculative.

Where did you hear 6? MD just said that they were in hot pursuit of a/c. Glad they are being smart about the search, Adam's crowd overpaid for the LTUtifuls. Also glad to hear about the search.

MD was lamenting DAL's new Kona flt., coming from cities HAL doesn't serve. On the balance, 10 fewer North Am. flts a week from an area HAL does serve would seem to more than make up for any potential loss. Plus, DAL charges more than NA, right?!

Now get me that 787!!!

 

[Erndogg]

The 787 is the eventual a/c for the future. But I feel it's just a matter of time before we see more 767's. Unfortunately the ones I hear they are bidding for are not in the greatest shape and will need some $$ thrown at them to bring them up to par.

I was flying with a Captain that is a reliable source when he gave me the 6 a/c figure but I am sure more used a/c could be coming onto the market soon. The goal is to not get stuck with older 767's (long leases) but to alliviate the need and do some expanding at a resonable price for these A/C.
Hope that helps. Want to get you guys back soon!!!

 

[mdanno808]

So who is the 6 aircraft information coming from? Was it braddah Dunk, or was it a line pilot?