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You'll have to learn how to "monitor" the airplane instead of flying it. Congrats on the growth.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Don't worry, I taught HAL everything he needs to know about flying an Airbus;)
 
General Lee said:
You'll have to learn how to "monitor" the airplane instead of flying it. Congrats on the growth.


Bye Bye--General Lee
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Not suprised you were the one to say what you did. Have you ever flown any Airbus equiptment? The old Boeing vs. Airbus argument is boring and childish, what does it matter what type they are getting? You should be carefull when you get off your high horse, you might step in something you don't like.
 
Floatplane said:
Not suprised you were the one to say what you did. Have you ever flown any Airbus equiptment? The old Boeing vs. Airbus argument is boring and childish, what does it matter what type they are getting? You should be carefull when you get off your high horse, you might step in something you don't like.
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Don't be so sensitive Grandpa. He was being his sarcastic self. Everyone knows the Airbus is a computer GEEK'S dream. Now, turn off your "stories" and go back to bed.

Great news about the growth Hawaiian dudes!
 
Boeing makes a pilot's aircraft. The Airbus just won't last, and the automation isn't safe unless it is in a controlled scenario.

If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going!
 
johnsonrod said:
Don't be so sensitive Grandpa. He was being his sarcastic self. Everyone knows the Airbus is a computer GEEK'S dream. Now, turn off your "stories" and go back to bed.

Great news about the growth Hawaiian dudes!
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Son, I think you are on the wrong forum. You might be more at home on the regional or charter forum!
 
The_Russian said:
Boeing makes a pilot's aircraft. The Airbus just won't last, and the automation isn't safe unless it is in a controlled scenario.
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You know, some people just is ignant!

The Airbus is holding up quite well, plenty of older birds around (of course old is relative, since the first 320 started revenue flying in 1987) DHL and others still operate the A-300, AMR has -600R and UPS/FDX liked the bus so much, they got the production line extended.

As for your other comment, the safety record speaks for itself.

Oh well, carry on with your tirade, maybe you can bring up the airshow accident!
 
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Floatplane said:
Not suprised you were the one to say what you did. Have you ever flown any Airbus equiptment? The old Boeing vs. Airbus argument is boring and childish, what does it matter what type they are getting? You should be carefull when you get off your high horse, you might step in something you don't like.
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Wow, I didn't know I struck a nerve......Feel inadequate do ya? I think it is great they are expanding, and I was just taking a fun jab at airbus pilots like Dizel8. Have I ever flown an Airbus? Has ANYONE ever really FLOWN an Airbus?(besides the A300) I have sat up front on the jumpseat several times, and I thought it was as cool or cooler than the Millenium Falcon.....Happy now? Oooooh---I should be careful when I get off my high horse, or I might step in something I WON'T LIKE..... Shut up nerd. I can't believe I posted another post (on the road to 10k)to respond to you....Not worth it.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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Dizel8 said:
You know, some people just is ignant!

The Airbus is holding up quite well, plenty of older birds around (of course old is relative, since the first 320 started revenue flying in 1987) DHL and others still operate the A-300, AMR has -600R and UPS/FDX liked the bus so much, they got the production line extended.

As for your other comment, the safety record speaks for itself.

Oh well, carry on with your tirade, maybe you can bring up the airshow accident!
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Old birds? How do you know? You guys keep selling your Airbi when they get 5 years old (and need MX that isn't covered in your secret Airbus deal). Also, Airbus just closed the A300 line with the last one going to Fedex.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Floatplane said:
Son, I think you are on the wrong forum. You might be more at home on the regional or charter forum!
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No, I think that was targeted at you gramps. I think you need to get off your high horse, and watch for poop down below!

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Old School 737 said:
On airline pilot central it says that the most junior Captain was hired in 1991? Is this correct?
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That was correct until this last vacancy bid that just closed. There were a couple of '92 hires that had just made Captain when we went through the bankruptcy in '03, which caused a lot of downgrades, along with them furloughing a bunch of us. For several years ('03 to '06) it was back to '87 hires as the junior Captain. Over the past year and a half we've recalled a bunch and upgraded a lot too, so we are currently back to where we left off before the bankruptcy. HA didn't hire from '92 until late '98, and now some of those '98's and early '99's will be upgrading in the coming months.

That's just the way it is at HA. We don't have a lot of growth, and very little attrition. It has taken an average of 10 to 12 years to upgrade here, and we all knew that when we hired on. That's why it's so hard to get hired here; not a lot of growth, and nobody leaves except with a retirement party or on a stretcher. Hopefully this new batch of planes will allow for some moderate growth, and new hiring too (which hasn't happened since July of '01).

HAL
 
Hey Hansoma,
Time to update your personal info - you're not haulin the trash out of Vegas anymore! How is the commute over the pass going? Congrats on taking your recall back to HAL, things are going nowhere fast around here.
 
Orionpilot said:
Hey Hansoma,
Time to update your personal info - you're not haulin the trash out of Vegas anymore! How is the commute over the pass going? Congrats on taking your recall back to HAL, things are going nowhere fast around here.
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He's fine, and working as my personal gofer boy. Once in a while we let him out of the cage to post here although since I'm senior to him again, he'd better watch what he says! :D

HAL
 
ERJFO said:
I wonder where you guys are going to go with these things? Same places or new places?
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I doubt they'll decide for sure until a few months before the new planes arrive, although it will probably be a mix of both. If it is new international destinations though, I'm sure they'll be working on getting route authorities in the mean time.

HAL
 
My old dream

I always wanted to fly for Hawaiian. I went to see them in 1991 when they still flew the DC9, DC8, Dash 8 and L1011. Well, we all know what happened. But I have to say I am a bit disappointed in the Airbus order as 1) I think Boeing helped Hawaiian in their time of need. 2) the 767 is still being built, along with 777 and 3) Hawaiian has always had AMERICAN airplanes! Ok so the Short's and the Dash 7 but primarily US aircraft. Nothing really against Airbus, OK I think their planes are crap. The Hibiscus and the beautiful Hawaiian girl on a french airplane? Just does not seem right to me. Ok enough rant. Good luck to the Hawaiian guys and gals.
 
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Dizel8 said:
The Airbus is holding up quite well, plenty of older birds around (of course old is relative, since the first 320 started revenue flying in 1987)
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That plane is dead in Opa Locka as we speak! Airframe timed out. Funny, I am still flying a 30 year old 727!

BTW, most all of the accidents and incidents were caused by the Airbus's fantastic automation system.
 
I donna but airbus is kicking @ss lately,racking most of the a/c orders in asia and west/east europe,even with a strong euro which is not in their advantage. they must be doing something good or is it a lack of aggressiveness from Boeing?
 
The_Russian said:
That plane is dead in Opa Locka as we speak! Airframe timed out. Funny, I am still flying a 30 year old 727!

BTW, most all of the accidents and incidents were caused by the Airbus's fantastic automation system.[/quot

How much time do you have in Airbus's?
I've never flown one, so I'm withholding an opinion, but I find it interesting that the people I've talked to that have flown them seem to like them and the people that bash Airbus's often have never flown one.
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NAAPilot said:
Congrats on the new airplanes! Are these additional aircraft or replacements for the 767's?
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Both, They will be flying a mixed fleet for quite awhile. This is also a long term new aircraft order. Additional used 330's will be coming on line starting in 2009 for growth. They are planning expansion to Asia and Europe.
 
Orionpilot said:
Hey Hansoma,
Time to update your personal info - you're not haulin the trash out of Vegas anymore! How is the commute over the pass going? Congrats on taking your recall back to HAL, things are going nowhere fast around here.
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I suppose you're right. I keep trying to think up something catchy but for some reason I just can't take my eyes off the Sky Belts ad....
 

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