Gulfstreams At Netjets

[lumcevac]

Is Netjets hiring into the GIV and GV? If so what is the start pay?

Thanks

 

[GPilot]

A friend of mine who flies for them said they are pretty flat when it comes to hiring right now. I had spoken with him a few months ago.

Regards

 

[DO-82 driver]

Actually, I understand that NJI has let some pilots go. The real growth is on the NJA side of the house.

 

[NJIG4Driver]

No pilots have been let go. Growth has been pretty flat for the past year and a half. Supposed to hire around 25-30 before the end of the year. This is driven by four new deliveries scheduled before Jan 05 (2 G-400s and 2 G-550s). Starting pay is around 66-67K without a G rating, low 70K with.

 

[GPilot]

NJIG4DRIVER,
Is the 5000 total time a hard requirement? I've seen EJI ads quoting their pilots having a minimum of 5K or better. Wondering if it would exclude someone with low total time, but a couple of G-ratings and good time in type. Thanks.

Best regards,

Gpilot

 

[NJIG4Driver]

I don't think anything posted is a hard requirement. There seem to be exceptions to every "rule". I've seen guys get hired here with no jet time and less than 4000 total, if you know the right people. For somebody who's not a special case, I think they look at the quality of experience more than a number. That's my opinion based on what I've seen. If you average the whole pilot groups flight time, I'm sure it's well above 5000 hours.

 

[AA717driver]

How long to Captain? Are there enough G-rated people out there to preclude hiring someone without a rating? Thanks for the info, NJI!TC

 

[NJIG4Driver]

Hard to say right now about upgrade time. I wouldn't expect anything before 5 years for a new hire now, maybe longer. There are a lot of older guys at the top of the pack. We have around 230 pilots on staff right now and around 50 are over 60 yrs old. There will be a fair amount of turnover in the next 5 years I would imagine. This isn't the easiest kind of work for a young guy, let alone 60 plus. As for the G ratings, not a requirement.

 

[Hugh Johnson]

Everyone remember, EJM is a "Management Company." If an aircraft comes onboard, they hire. No union, customer driven. They are a totally different entity than the fractional side.

 

[Heavy Set]

NJIG4Driver,

I have been interested in EJI for quite some time but have never made any progress. A few questions for you:

1. Is it true that newhires can be placed in the GV as well - and are they separate pilot lists (no cross-qualification)?

2. What percentage of your time is spent flying international?

3. What's the most exotic destination you've hit in the GIV for EJI?

4. Lastly, how often do you hit the glamorous places like Hawaii in a month or are you flying transcon most often?

I continue to hold out hope that I will get an interview someday with EJI - that would be one of my top choices.

Thanks

 

[NJIG4Driver]

Some new hires have gone to the G5 in the past, companies choice based on needs at the time. Percentage of international flying is hard to peg. I'd say 20% of my flying is international not counting Canada, Mexico, and the Carribean. Some guys do more, some less. Majority of G4 international trips are to Western Europe. I personally haven't ventured far outside of Europe. Couple trips to Eastern Europe and the Middle East. There are trips working to anywhere you can imagine. Scheduling tries to find guys who are willing to extend beyond their normal schedule to work long trips to keep crew issues at a minimum. There are some G4 trips to the Far East but most are being run in the G5. Trips to China for the G5 are starting to be as routine as a trip to London in the G4. As for the exotic places, it's hard to say. I know it's not often enough! The bad part is all these cool places look the same with your eyes closed. With the level of activity we have anymore, you don't stay anywhere too long. Guys who live out West tend to get out to Hawaii quite a bit more than the East coast guys. East coast guys tend to do more Europe trips. Good luck to ya Heavy!