Bobby,
What I did learn in the military is a correct way to write an email. Spell-check everything!!! Your grammar leaves little to be desired. As per your question... The major was in BioChemistry and if you even think that you can compare to my credentials to a kid coming out of your school with Gulfstream's reputation...good luck. What you should be telling these kids is the truth...stay in school!! I guess you sit at a desk now and collect a paycheck and thats what matters to you. But you are the reason why some of the pilot friends of mine are unable to buy houses or cars. You don't tell them its gonna take a long time to make the big bucks. And the guys your putting through...wooaaa. I talked to a sim guy out there in Colorado about a guy that was from your school that drove his truck through a cornfield and you guys brushed it to the side and let him finish...CLASS!!! And for your Brasilia's ...who wants to fly that heap? Talk about a dead end.
So go ahead and make your calls...recruit more kids so they won't have a pot to piss in for the next 10-15 years and go home feeling great about your job at Gulfstream. Once again, I didn't write the initial email but we can keep this email going so I can hear how you substantiate Gulfstream's credentials.
What I did learn in the military is a correct way to write an email. Spell-check everything!!! Your grammar leaves little to be desired. As per your question... The major was in BioChemistry and if you even think that you can compare to my credentials to a kid coming out of your school with Gulfstream's reputation...good luck. What you should be telling these kids is the truth...stay in school!! I guess you sit at a desk now and collect a paycheck and thats what matters to you. But you are the reason why some of the pilot friends of mine are unable to buy houses or cars. You don't tell them its gonna take a long time to make the big bucks. And the guys your putting through...wooaaa. I talked to a sim guy out there in Colorado about a guy that was from your school that drove his truck through a cornfield and you guys brushed it to the side and let him finish...CLASS!!! And for your Brasilia's ...who wants to fly that heap? Talk about a dead end.
So go ahead and make your calls...recruit more kids so they won't have a pot to piss in for the next 10-15 years and go home feeling great about your job at Gulfstream. Once again, I didn't write the initial email but we can keep this email going so I can hear how you substantiate Gulfstream's credentials.
FROM BOBBY PINTO: (GULFSTREAM)
First of all I never said military pilots wash out what I did say if a kid comes to me and tells me he wants to be a pilot and is going to go to the military he might want to think twice about it. Because only a few make it as a military pilot. Believe me after 16 years that we are in this business I can't count how many guys coming out of the military still pursuing their dreams of becoming a pilot but are now in their late 20's, 30's and 40's coming into our program because this is the fastest, least expensive and most successful way of getting into the airlines. they do not have years to waste because as you know being an Airline Pilot in a ********************ty Airline (not my line yours by the way) Seniority is what counts. And if we can help these pilots get into the Airlines a lot faster than any other route than in the long run they will thank us which they have over the last 16 years. And if you do your math genius we start out pilots at $19.60 per hour. They are guaranteed 75 per month but they average 90-100 hours permonth. Plus medical, dental, 401K and their Airline ID. If you do your homework you will find that first year F/O's at these regional start anywhere from $18 to around $30 average is $22-$25. They are guaranteed 75 hours monthly and I can tell you know most will not fly more than that their first year because of reserves and they have to commute to where ever our pilots only commute in Florida and they average 90-100 hours a month...they make more money and it goes up every year and here the average upgrade is 1 1/2 - 2 years max and they start at $34-36 and if they are on the Brasilia it's even more. Don't talk until you have the facts and as far as the young kids they can do both work and get their degree most people do that these days and most can handle if n to go to college 4-5 years and try not to drink to much beer and get an education. And I work in management not flying. I was trained and schooled for that most pilots are schooled to fly a plane not manage or work in administration. What is you degree in? Our kids by the time they are 23 are making very good money at an airline and paying their loans most kids getting out of college are in debt well over $100k and no job and a high wash out rate. Don't blame me or scabs most need to look in the mirror and see that the other airlines are trying to stay in business with fuel prices people not wanting to pay high prices yet you have these EMPLOYEES wanting to make more money because they feel they deserve it or feel they are ENTITLED to it. Wake up and smell the coffee this is one industry there are people working 40 to over 80 hours a week including doctors and you fly 10-15 days out of the month? Be careful who you complain to the only one's that can whine are these pilots to each other and using fake names on the internet.
FROM ME:
As per my phone message I left you, I did not know that email was sent out. I do however know that your training facility is less than perfect in what kind of people are coming out of there. Including the 2 Gulfstream pilots that were at Pinnacle and had the double engine failure at FL410. I believe that your email was misinformed of correct information regarding military pilots also. Most military pilots do not wash out...most see that you cant make the money that the military can pay you as a pilot and choose other professions to go into...which some of my friends have done...
I only question why you are still at this flight school and you yourself aren't at an airline living this glamorous life. I also want to inform you that these high school kids that you are hoping to place in an airline is only a detriment to their career since competition will be fierce going against college educated pilots...yes a resume with that on it still matters. And when they do try to get that education while working how hard that might be to get another education loan on top of the 70-80K they already owe. I only hope that with all this information that you are not telling these kids they will be able to pay back these huge loans that will cripple their next 20-30 years trying to pay them back.
I am a former Navy Pilot/college educated and with the information that you thought to reply back to me with I hope you can start putting a little more of the truth out there to these young kids to get educated first. Not have these guys come out of your school and work for $18 a flight hour and expect to be able to live and pay loans off while still having food on the table. This is exactly why the pay is so low industry wide...people like you that are putting these young kids out there to work for scraps while operating a $30-40 million dollar aircraft for executives that get huge clauses in their contracts for compensation while they bankrupt the company they represent. Maybe if we had some people that stood up for these people we can get the pay back to where it once was. Maybe you can talk to your boss, "The Eastern Scab" that crossed the picket lines to screw his fellow employees when it mattered. And lets just finish by saying that I didn't pay for training, I pledged my life for it.
First of all I never said military pilots wash out what I did say if a kid comes to me and tells me he wants to be a pilot and is going to go to the military he might want to think twice about it. Because only a few make it as a military pilot. Believe me after 16 years that we are in this business I can't count how many guys coming out of the military still pursuing their dreams of becoming a pilot but are now in their late 20's, 30's and 40's coming into our program because this is the fastest, least expensive and most successful way of getting into the airlines. they do not have years to waste because as you know being an Airline Pilot in a ********************ty Airline (not my line yours by the way) Seniority is what counts. And if we can help these pilots get into the Airlines a lot faster than any other route than in the long run they will thank us which they have over the last 16 years. And if you do your math genius we start out pilots at $19.60 per hour. They are guaranteed 75 per month but they average 90-100 hours permonth. Plus medical, dental, 401K and their Airline ID. If you do your homework you will find that first year F/O's at these regional start anywhere from $18 to around $30 average is $22-$25. They are guaranteed 75 hours monthly and I can tell you know most will not fly more than that their first year because of reserves and they have to commute to where ever our pilots only commute in Florida and they average 90-100 hours a month...they make more money and it goes up every year and here the average upgrade is 1 1/2 - 2 years max and they start at $34-36 and if they are on the Brasilia it's even more. Don't talk until you have the facts and as far as the young kids they can do both work and get their degree most people do that these days and most can handle if n to go to college 4-5 years and try not to drink to much beer and get an education. And I work in management not flying. I was trained and schooled for that most pilots are schooled to fly a plane not manage or work in administration. What is you degree in? Our kids by the time they are 23 are making very good money at an airline and paying their loans most kids getting out of college are in debt well over $100k and no job and a high wash out rate. Don't blame me or scabs most need to look in the mirror and see that the other airlines are trying to stay in business with fuel prices people not wanting to pay high prices yet you have these EMPLOYEES wanting to make more money because they feel they deserve it or feel they are ENTITLED to it. Wake up and smell the coffee this is one industry there are people working 40 to over 80 hours a week including doctors and you fly 10-15 days out of the month? Be careful who you complain to the only one's that can whine are these pilots to each other and using fake names on the internet.
FROM ME:
As per my phone message I left you, I did not know that email was sent out. I do however know that your training facility is less than perfect in what kind of people are coming out of there. Including the 2 Gulfstream pilots that were at Pinnacle and had the double engine failure at FL410. I believe that your email was misinformed of correct information regarding military pilots also. Most military pilots do not wash out...most see that you cant make the money that the military can pay you as a pilot and choose other professions to go into...which some of my friends have done...
I only question why you are still at this flight school and you yourself aren't at an airline living this glamorous life. I also want to inform you that these high school kids that you are hoping to place in an airline is only a detriment to their career since competition will be fierce going against college educated pilots...yes a resume with that on it still matters. And when they do try to get that education while working how hard that might be to get another education loan on top of the 70-80K they already owe. I only hope that with all this information that you are not telling these kids they will be able to pay back these huge loans that will cripple their next 20-30 years trying to pay them back.
I am a former Navy Pilot/college educated and with the information that you thought to reply back to me with I hope you can start putting a little more of the truth out there to these young kids to get educated first. Not have these guys come out of your school and work for $18 a flight hour and expect to be able to live and pay loans off while still having food on the table. This is exactly why the pay is so low industry wide...people like you that are putting these young kids out there to work for scraps while operating a $30-40 million dollar aircraft for executives that get huge clauses in their contracts for compensation while they bankrupt the company they represent. Maybe if we had some people that stood up for these people we can get the pay back to where it once was. Maybe you can talk to your boss, "The Eastern Scab" that crossed the picket lines to screw his fellow employees when it mattered. And lets just finish by saying that I didn't pay for training, I pledged my life for it.
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