I would think that just having "Gulfstream International" on your resume would be a huge turn-off to most people. Hired off the street or not...psysicx said:What if your hired off the street are you still considered scum?
Settle down there fella... we're not accusing you of being scum. We're accusing Gulfstream International of being scum. The majority consensus here is that you should have nothing to do with this operation.flyboy10 said:I busted my ass accumulating my flight time flying blood, piss, and papsmears allover FL. Don't accuse me of being scum. they're hiring off the street and paying well from what I understand
aeronautic1 said:I paid for all of my ratings from PPL thru ATPL at Professional Flight Training (954-938-3043) @ FXE, right down the street from GIA. An excellent flight school with clean, well maintained aircraft and knowledgable flight instructors. With all the time building, exam fees, dual instruction and solo flights, I probably spent somewhere near $15K (no loans/not mommy 'n daddy) for everything over the course of 8 years (to build ATP time). The only thing I did not pay for is my current type rating. Now, because I paid for all of this out of my own pocket, does that not constitute PFT?
I believe that the only way to get all of your pilot ratings without paying is by getting lucky enough the pass the selection board in the military; and that would be a huge crap-shoot, with a miserable outcome once in service and not selected.
So, in my opinion, nearly everyone in the pilot community has PFT'd in one sense of the word on the other. What pilot here can say they did not pay for their private certificate - their commerical or multi?
It is not necessary to go to GIA, CAA, Sierra et al. If you have the times that a company is looking for, then the opportunities are out there. If I were 25 years younger and had gotten the bug then, I would have probably gone to University and gotten an aviation degree at USD, BCC and have something to show for the money spent other than pilot ratings
As far as the rest of the PFT flames, well it is all just so much pontification.
cdog said:I see that there are alot of anti-GIA responses. I really don't know, but do they have an unusually high number of violations/incidents/accidents as compared with non-PFT operations?
PCL_128 said:I'm betting this is just flamebait. GIA only hires off the street when very, very desperate. Back around '99 or so they hired some street captains, but they still had to pay $10k for their training. If they're hiring off the street now, then check out the details very closely. Make sure that they aren't going to end up throwing a PFT contract in front of you on the first day of class after you've already left another job. Be very careful with this place. Just for an example, the CEO used to fire people on the spot for not wearing their hat. I'm sure it's gotten better now that the union is there, but management is still mostly the same.
Godvek, they used to permanently hire the FOs all the time. Before 9/11 there were always 20-30 Captains leaving each month for the majors. They would upgrade FOs as soon as they reached 1500 TT for the ATP mins and permanently hire all the probie FOs to fill the vacant FO slots. After 9/11 that all changed though. The attrition slowed to a trickle and some FOs were furloughed. For a couple of years they were able to get most guys jobs at Pinnacle, but that's over now. I don't have a clue what they're doing now. I don't know anyone down there anymore.