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Growth finally for SWA

waveflyer

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Seems new announcements occurring twice a day the last few weeks
5 major initiatives are being completed, and the 5 year plan is looking up-

I just heard rumors of 1000 new hires over next two years, 350 in 2015 as the rest of air tran transitions, and 650 in '16
Flight attendant training is ramping up
Might be I could see a 10 year upgrade after all or close to it.
Domestic looks as big as international
I've been off the planet with the bidness and child
What are you all hearing?


http://www.denverpost.com/business/...nds-footprint-at-denver-international-airport

http://www.jsonline.com/business/so...m-milwaukee-b99388534z1-282284261.html?ipad=y


http://www.dallasnews.com/business/...-focus-2015-domestic-growth-on-love-field.ece


http://online.wsj.com/articles/sout...on-to-serve-puerto-vallarta-mexico-1415649488

http://www.bizjournals.com/baltimor...st-airlines-adds-bwi-to-los-cabos-flight.html
 
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StopNTSing

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That we are adding seats but no hulls. Flattish quo
 

waveflyer

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How does that jive with 1000 new hires?
^^^wishful thinking??
 

jonjuan

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Simply telling the Street what they want to hear. Nothing to see. Move along.
 

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Gassing us up so that what ever they put in front of us will pass with 87% yes vote.
 

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I completely agree it's not the best news to hear but it is good news. SWA is adding seats left and right which is adding revenue which is adding profitability which is adding profit sharing.

SWA is upguauging the fleet which is good for the bottom line. Kelly has already said he expects 20% ROIC in 2015, well exceeding the magic 15 he has stated for years what was needed for expansion.

As I said, it's not great news for pilots in the short term but it is certainly all adding up to realistic expansion expectations in the short rather than long term. All in all it is much preferable to shrinking the airline. It could be a LOT worse.
 

Tripower455

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Gassing us up so that what ever they put in front of us will pass with 87% yes vote.

If that's the case, then why are they even bothering to hire?


The current group will vote YES!, by a large margin, on anything put in front of them.

I see it as even more of a pay cut due to over manning.
 

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That we are adding seats but no hulls. Flattish quo

reminds me of the time:

During the "company presentation" part of my interview with AirTran back in Feb 2001 Jill N tried to sell us "growth". I'm not the sharpest crayon in the box (back then or now) but the info sheet she handed out had (at the time) data on 50 717 orders replacing 50 DC-9's. I scratched my head but kept my mouth shut. It wasn't until after a few questions by other interviewees that Jill reveled the "growth" was in the increased seats on the 717 compared to the DC-9.

I still have the image of the CC Air guy's face siting next to me at that conference room table in the Air INC HQ in ATL where AirTran interviewed back then. He was like, "WTF, we aren't even working here yet and they are already hitting us with smoke and mirrors".

And just for sh1ts and giggles - where would a guy be today in the AT/SWA mix had he/she taken an April 9th, 2001 class at AT?
 
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StopNTSing

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Right around 50% system seniority.
 

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That's nothing. I was June 98 at AirTran. When I got furloughed in October 98' I went to USAir in Jan 99.

Didn't accept recall at either of them.

If I'd gone back to AirTran I'd be pretty senior.

If I'd gone back to USAir I'd be wearing an AA badge soon.

The moral of the story is, always take your recall. A bird in the hand... Etc.

Don't be like me. Get cable.
 

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That's nothing. I was June 98 at AirTran. When I got furloughed in October 98' I went to USAir in Jan 99.

Didn't accept recall at either of them.

If I'd gone back to AirTran I'd be pretty senior.

If I'd gone back to USAir I'd be wearing an AA badge soon.

The moral of the story is, always take your recall. A bird in the hand... Etc.

Don't be like me. Get cable.

That right there made me laugh out loud!
 

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That's nothing. I was June 98 at AirTran. When I got furloughed in October 98' I went to USAir in Jan 99.

Didn't accept recall at either of them.

If I'd gone back to AirTran I'd be pretty senior.

If I'd gone back to USAir I'd be wearing an AA badge soon.

The moral of the story is, always take your recall. A bird in the hand... Etc.

Don't be like me. Get cable.


Where are you now?
 

LearLove

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At the bottom of a very long list, and still very happy to be here. :)

I'm glad you are where you are. You made the best decisions you could based on the information you had at the time. Everything else was out of your hands.

I may have never taken the MDA position in 04 had I not been kicked out of the left seat at ALG with no re-upgrade insight. That would have been a big ouch.

I'd take being the worst ham fisted pilot with luck over being the ace if the base with no luck any day in this career.
 
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