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General Lee

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We received a letter from U.S. Airways this morning and will of course review it. Delta's plan has always been to emerge from bankruptcy in the first half of 2007 as a strong, stand-alone carrier, Jerry said. Our plan is working and we are proud of the progress Delta people are making to achieve this objective. The Bankruptcy Court has granted Delta the exclusive right to create the plan of reorganization until Feb. 15, 2007. We will continue to move aggressively toward that goal.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
We received a letter from U.S. Airways this morning and will of course review it. Delta's plan has always been to emerge from bankruptcy in the first half of 2007 as a strong, stand-alone carrier, Jerry said. Our plan is working and we are proud of the progress Delta people are making to achieve this objective. The Bankruptcy Court has granted Delta the exclusive right to create the plan of reorganization until Feb. 15, 2007. We will continue to move aggressively toward that goal.


Bye Bye--General Lee

General:
Unfortunately, this whole process is NOT up to him, its up to the creditors, and frankly, if they stand to make money off this, it WILL go through!

737
 
General:
Unfortunately, this whole process is NOT up to him, its up to the creditors, and frankly, if they stand to make money off this, it WILL go through!

737

True, but regulators will look at the overlap, and members of Congress will be all over them if a hub in their district could go away. It won't be easy.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
The Bankruptcy Court has granted Delta the exclusive right to create the plan of reorganization until Feb. 15, 2007. We will continue to move aggressively toward that goal.

What the BK court giveth, the BK court can taketh away.

Good luck with the "Congress will keep us apart" theory due to a possible loss of a hub in New York. I don't think New York will lose a hub or any jobs because of this merger. New York has plenty of air service and the new JFK terminal will improve it further.

Airlines are climbing all over themselves to get gates in New York.
 
shouldn't Parker take care of his first "fixer upper" airline before trying to get into somebody elses biz.?
 
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Delta Air Lines Responds to Reports of Merger with U.S. Airways

ATLANTA, Nov. 15, 2006 – Delta Air Lines’ CEO Gerald Grinstein issued the following statement today regarding U.S. Airways’ proposed merger with Delta:
“We received a letter from U.S. Airways this morning and will of course review it. Delta’s plan has always been to emerge from bankruptcy in the first half of 2007 as a strong, stand-alone carrier. Our plan is working and we are proud of the progress Delta people are making to achieve this objective.
The Bankruptcy Court has granted Delta the exclusive right to create the plan of reorganization until Feb. 15, 2007. We will continue to move aggressively towards that goal."
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General:
Unfortunately, this whole process is NOT up to him, its up to the creditors, and frankly, if they stand to make money off this, it WILL go through!

737

True....Frank Borman had no intention of seeing the Lorenzo deal go through....but it did.
 
shouldn't Parker take care of his first "fixer upper" airline before trying to get into somebody elses biz.?


Your perspective is skewed. The market and shareholders love the USAir merger.

It is huge success, comrade.

Parker will bring more of the same to Delta.
 
If it does go though and that is a big IF. U/DAL/AWA needs to sell one of the DCA-LGA-BOS shuttles, now do the pilots/airplanes/gates ect go to that new airline?? Probably be AA or UAL, be great if it's SWA!!

Probably need to get rid of 2 hubs SLC (too close to LAS/PHX) and CLT (close to ATL). Probably need to downsize from PHL and LGA. But Parker says no furloughs...don't hold your breath. This merge only benefits upper mgt and lawyers. Time will tell
 
As a creditor Boeing will not go for this as long as the new Delta is going to just buy Airbuses and we know the present US Airways likes their Airbuses.
I also dont think Airbus uses many PW engines (Dont really know). Would it not make more sense to put a bid in for Northwest, they have a more common fleet of aircraft. A319, A320, A330, B757 and no overlapping hubs so it would be easier on the government approval. UBA757
 
As a creditor Boeing will not go for this as long as the new Delta is going to just buy Airbuses and we know the present US Airways likes their Airbuses.
I also dont think Airbus uses many PW engines (Dont really know). Would it not make more sense to put a bid in for Northwest, they have a more common fleet of aircraft. A319, A320, A330, B757 and no overlapping hubs so it would be easier on the government approval. UBA757

Many have said that Parker actually favors the Boeing aircraft. The USAirways aircraft were from Wolfe prior to 9-11. I wouldn't hesitate to think that a nice little Boeing order would follow a USAirways/DAL merger.
 
Interesting, some of the speculations here. Here's what Doug put out..

http://usairways.com/awa/content/aboutus/i...ns/webcast.aspx

Check the slideshow.....says, no hubs going away.......but also said somewhere, have to do this in BK as they don't want any synergies to get signed away in capacity agreements and such (RAH and US with the 170's which Parker wasn't happy with, and he's has publicly said how he hates Mesa....)
 
True, but regulators will look at the overlap, and members of Congress will be all over them if a hub in their district could go away. It won't be easy.


Bye Bye--General Lee

why the denial mode general?? DALPA will be there to protect your seniority number!!!


p.s. maybe you might want to reconsider your position on the "age 65" amendment...
 
This deal won't happen. Why? There isn't enough time. In order to reep the benefits of a merger, it's got to happen while Delta is still in bankruptcy. Once Delta emerges from Ch11, the deal isn't so sweet anymore. Crap, if I had the information prior to LCC's announcement, I would've made thousands on the stock market today... oh wait, we ought to see how much some of those executives made today on the stock market... In the end, if the deal happens, the winners will be the management and the losers will be the poor labor, sounds like a familiar tune, eh?
 
But prior to the merger America West was almost all Airbus also right. So how much does he really like the Boeing/Airbus. Was not part of the merger also the A350? UBA757
 
Everyone seems to forget that hostile takeovers in service businesses typically don't work well unless the employees see immediate benefits (i.e., cash) as well...
 
why the denial mode general?? DALPA will be there to protect your seniority number!!!


p.s. maybe you might want to reconsider your position on the "age 65" amendment...

No, age 65 will only keep the old USAir guys there longer. There are plenty on the verge of retiring, and thanks to the Democrats now in Congress, they probably will retire soon. That will help out a lot. This merger or aquistion is only good for the investment bankers, even the anal-cysts on CNBC said so. Will the regulators know that too? You bet. We will see. The fleets aren't the same, the hubs are too close, and the frequent flyer programs would hurt the public by merging (according to those guys on CNBC). We shall see.....


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
So what exactly is a hostile takeover??
 
I may be incorrect, but didn't either Airbus or the parent of Airbus invest a boatload of money in the US Air recovery? I'm sure it was to help sales along the way.
I doubt you will see Airways ever buy Boeing.
If that is the case, you can bet there will be some backroom discussions from the guys in Washington State,,,er,,,,Chicago.

Hung
 
Grinstein's response
We received a letter from U.S. Airways this morning and will of course review it. Delta's plan has always been to emerge from bankruptcy in the first half of 2007 as a strong, stand-alone carrier, Jerry said. Our plan is working and we are proud of the progress Delta people are making to achieve this objective. The Bankruptcy Court has granted Delta the exclusive right to create the plan of reorganization until Feb. 15, 2007. We will continue to move aggressively toward that goal.


Bye Bye--General Lee
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Do you really think Grinstein cares how delta emerges? He allready made it perfectly clear he is going to take the money and run in the near future. This would be an easy way out.
 
Grinstein's response
We received a letter from U.S. Airways this morning and will of course review it. Delta's plan has always been to emerge from bankruptcy in the first half of 2007 as a strong, stand-alone carrier, Jerry said. Our plan is working and we are proud of the progress Delta people are making to achieve this objective. The Bankruptcy Court has granted Delta the exclusive right to create the plan of reorganization until Feb. 15, 2007. We will continue to move aggressively toward that goal.


Bye Bye--General Lee
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Do you really think Grinstein cares how delta emerges? He allready made it perfectly clear he is going to take the money and run in the near future. This would be an easy way out.

He sure is making a stink though, and if he is lying or acting, he has just won the Academy Award! Fantastic! 3 thumbs up!

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Hey Crziplt,

Flightsafety personnel have been whispering for weeks of something big going
on with RAH (in a good way). Everyone knows Parker hates Mesa, but I doubt he has that bad of an opinion of RAH. With RAH owning a portion of USAir and a presence on the board, I doubt Bedford is going to get the shaft in this one.

Nice try though!
 

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