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Great Lakes...Bye Bye Local 747

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All great lakes pilots should get involved instead of the half a$$ed help that the pilot union reps get..Plenty of people to b!tch about how bad the place is but many dont want to help when it comes down to it. Of course the Teamsters are a big problem with how little they do to help guide the group in what to do. As for switching locals, that is only one of the ideas being tossed around and in no way is in the process of happening...YET. More likely would be to switch to the UTU who are the reps for big sky. The company has set aside two..yes two different time periods this month to hold meetings...but guess who we are waiting on to set the meeting up..yep the F##king teamster..once again. So for all the rumors that is what is going on right now and the only thing that is going on right now.
 
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Good luck, Lakers! I hope you get a decent contract soon.

As for the naysayers on the Teamsters, remember that it depends a lot on the leadership at the local level and the involvement of the pilots. I was not thrilled to see the Teamsters at NetJets when I first hired on. But when the new MEC took over and established a new local, it really changed things and produced a good contract.
 
Chautauqua pilots fed up with the IBT as well. Maybe some of the forward thinkers at Lakes and Chautauqua should get together on this. CHQ pilots already have a fund to help this cause.
 
I was under the impression that the NetJets pilots are at a different Local (it's NOT 747) for a reason. Heard they bailed from Local 747 dissatisfied. It's taken years, but I finally believe that Rainey is truly corrupt.
 
Cardinal said:
I was under the impression that the NetJets pilots are at a different Local (it's NOT 747) for a reason. Heard they bailed from Local 747 dissatisfied. It's taken years, but I finally believe that Rainey is truly corrupt.
Actually NetJets was part of local 284, a dock loaders and trucker union. We where unhappy with thier corrupt truck driver thinking and no progress on the contract. We wanted controll of our own money with pilots running the local.
 
Hey everyone, the Kalitta Air guys are pretty fed up with the Local 747 as well. Let's just says it's been around 3 (!) years since our contract was amendable, and besides a bad TA, we've gotten nothing.

There has been some vague discussion similar to what people posted here - new local, that kind of thing. Some of our problems are our own leaders - no doubt, but it seems like we're getting no help from the Teamsters.

iaflyer
 
be-400xpdriver said:
Actually NetJets was part of local 284, a dock loaders and trucker union. We where unhappy with thier corrupt truck driver thinking and no progress on the contract. We wanted controll of our own money with pilots running the local.

Thanks for the clarification. Good thinking, too!
 
Cardinal said:
I was under the impression that the NetJets pilots are at a different Local (it's NOT 747) for a reason. Heard they bailed from Local 747 dissatisfied. It's taken years, but I finally believe that Rainey is truly corrupt.

Be-400xpdriver is correct. We were 284 but when our new MEC took over, they quickly succeeded in getting a new Local exclusively for NJA piots: 1108. I think 1108 might be the local that some of the other fractionals might organize under.
 
iaflyer said:
Hey everyone, the Kalitta Air guys are pretty fed up with the Local 747 as well. Let's just says it's been around 3 (!) years since our contract was amendable, and besides a bad TA, we've gotten nothing.


Not too many folks over CHQ/Shuttle/Republic are too pleased with them either. They might be getting their walking papers from us too.
 

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