Grandstanding @sshole Mainline Pilots

[Mach92]

No scope no deal!

 

[jonjuan]

No scope no deal!

She said that scope is non negotiable. So, what that tells me is that they want to immediately do away with all outsourced regional flying, whether it's 50 seats or 100 seats. If not, then it is negotiable. Either there are regionals or there aren't. Are they willing to strike over any outsourcing or just some? Not really clear where she's coming from.

 

[shootr]

What's Southwest's scope clause? Oh yeah, N/A.

No RJ's (except intra-Hawaii and inter-island Carribean). Good enough answer?

 

[Dornier 335]

Let the battle begin ...

New narrowbody order from United remains questionable
By Lori Ranson


Now that United and Continental have officially closed their merger, the new management team plans to undertake an analysis of the combined carrier's fleet.

Previously United had indicated it would make a decision by year-end on replacing its aging Airbus narrowbodies. The carrier also operates 96 Boeing 757s according to Flightglobal's ACAS database.

Today during a discussion marking the close of the deal United chief executive Jeff Smisek remarked that the carrier's new management team "just got here", and prior to close did not have access to flight profitability statistics from a stand-alone United.

Declining to specify a timeframe for making a fleet decision Smisek states: "When we're ready to announce it, we'll announce it."

Smisek does conclude that Continental had previously been at a disadvantage in its ability to only operate 50-seat regional jets as dictated by the scope clause in its mainline pilot contract.

Highlighting the competitiveness of the two-class configuration of United's 70-seat regional jets Smisek says premium class on those aircraft is an important benefit for business travellers and "profitability going forward".

Smisek is not addressing a proposal from pilots at Continental and United to end the outsourcing of operating regional jets to the new carrier's regional partners.

But in a joint statement both pilot groups, represented by the Air Line Pilots Association, state: "No issue carries more weight than scope and the cessation of outsourcing. The pilots of Continental and United Airlines believe the time is right to correct the wrongs of the past with solutions that benefit our pilots."

Smisek, meanwhile, has stated a goal to reach joint collective bargaining agreements with all the combined work groups by the time Continental and United receive a single operating certificate from the FAA, which he estimates should take roughly a year.

Continental and United will continue to operate separately while the 12-18 month integration process continues. The new holding company for both airlines, United Continental Holdings, began trading on the New York Stock Exchange today under the UAL symbol.

 

[desolo]

SWA has one of the best scope in the industry, educate yourself.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

SWA has one of the best scope in the industry, educate yourself.

Yeah maybe you should look in the mirror and eduMacate yourself.....

Southwest only flies to 60+ cities. Everybody who has regionals doing some flying have hundreds more cities domestically in their schedule.

Apples to Oranges.....both fruit but WAY different.

 

[Ex737Driver]

..................Highlighting the competitiveness of the two-class configuration of United's 70-seat regional jets Smisek says premium class on those aircraft is an important benefit for business travellers and "profitability going forward".

I'm sure it's a very important benefit. I'm also sure that if we allowed a 160-seat two class aircraft be flown by a regional, that too would be an important benefit for business travellers and "profitability going forward". It allows the airline to fly aircraft with pilots that aren't being paid what they should be paid. Damn shame for mgmt. here. This is going to change one way or the other. How about we fly the United aircraft with United pilots at United pay rates and benefits? That's an important benefit for pilots if mgmt wants the "airline to go forward".

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

I truly hope you can end all outsourcing !

 

[filejw]

She said that scope is non negotiable. So, what that tells me is that they want to immediately do away with all outsourced regional flying, whether it's 50 seats or 100 seats. If not, then it is negotiable. Either there are regionals or there aren't. Are they willing to strike over any outsourcing or just some? Not really clear where she's coming from.

If you read the original statement she made a few days ago they purpose taking over the flying as the contracts expire.

 

[Hamfighter]

I just want to clarify...on my Southwest scope comment, I said N/A (not applicable) because I know that they don't outsource. It was a compliment. Sorry if y'all didn't understand.