Gordon is in the DAL Game!

[Texx]

http://yahoo.reuters.com/news/artic...2-22_21-48-54_N22313984&type=comktNews&rpc=44

 

[ACL65PILOT]

What do you think the chances of a merger happening? I would love to go to DAL but to be on the street in a year is not a fun picture to paint.

 

[zkmayo]

He's getting a nice payday to do that work ie 250k every 10days.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I think that means that the creditors want a better deal and are willing to pay to get that deal sooner than later.

 

[ironspud]

AP
Creditors Urge Delta to Weigh Options
Friday December 22, 4:38 pm ET
By Harry R. Weber, AP Business Writer Unofficial Creditors Committee Urges Delta to Consider Options

ATLANTA (AP) -- Seventeen creditors who hold $2.25 billion in unsecured claims against Delta Air Lines Inc. in its bankruptcy case urged the carrier Friday to consider alternatives to its stand-alone reorganization plan.
Their announcement comes a day after the chief executive of US Airways Group Inc. issued a scathing rebuke of Delta's stand-alone reorganization plan and said he is more determined than ever to push ahead with his company's hostile $8.3 billion bid to buy Delta.

The 17 creditors, who form an unofficial committee of unsecured claimholders, said in a statement that while they appreciated Delta's progress to date in its restructuring efforts, the committee "expects Delta to consider methodically, proactively and fairly strategic alternatives to its proposed stand-alone Chapter 11 plan to ensure that creditor recoveries are maximized in the Chapter 11 process."

The statement said the unofficial committee consists of 17 members that hold unsecured notes, unsecured deficiency claims relating to aircraft equipment leasing arrangements and other unsecured claims totaling more than $2.25 billion of unsecured claims against Delta.

The total estimated value of all unsecured claims in Delta's case, which it disclosed in its reorganization plan, is roughly $15 billion, Delta spokesman Michael Freitag said. That means the unofficial creditors committee represents only 15 percent of the total claims. Also, Delta's pilots union, which supports management's desire to remain an independent carrier, holds an almost equal share of unsecured claims, $2.1 billion.

A spokesman for the committee, Todd Miller, did not elaborate on the committee's statement.

Freitag said Delta will consider what the committee has to say "even though they are not an officially sanctioned voice in the Chapter 11 process." He added, "As we have stated previously, we intend to move forward in a constructive manner that serves the best interest of our creditors and other stakeholders."

That committee is separate from the official committee of unsecured creditors in Delta's bankruptcy case that has a key role in deciding Delta's fate.
The official committee has said it supports Delta's decision to file its stand-alone reorganization plan on Tuesday, but will also weigh alternatives.
Other creditors, such as those on the unofficial committee, could put pressure on larger creditors to force Delta's hand. It remains to be seen how that will all play out.

Typically, in each class of creditors, Delta's plan would have to be approved by holders of two-thirds of the claims and a majority of the number of individual creditors. If a class is not impaired -- that is, if they are guaranteed of getting all of their money back no matter what -- they generally don't get to vote.

If one or more classes of creditors do not approve the plan, Delta could still confirm the plan through a so-called cramdown, a maneuver in which it must show the court that the dissenting class will receive more under the plan than it would under a Chapter 7 liquidation. The company also would have to show that any subordinate class, such as shareholders, would get nothing in the way of recovery under the reorganization plan.
Delta already has met that second test because its plan calls for current shares of the company to be wiped out.

If a competing plan were filed, creditors would vote on each individually. There have been bankruptcy cases where two competing reorganization plans were approved by creditors; in such a case, a judge decides which plan is confirmed after holding a hearing to determine which plan is in the "better interest" of the creditors.

As Christmas approached, US Airways CEO Doug Parker's comments Thursday made it clear his company isn't going to back down. Delta shot back Thursday that it hasn't changed its position that it wants to remain independent, intensifying the war of words that started when Tempe, Ariz.-based US Airways disclosed its offer to buy Atlanta-based Delta on Nov. 15.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

Gordon Advocates Merging

Gordon has made many public statements supporting mergers should happen.

 

[Ex737Driver]

He's also shot his mouth off more times than a AC-130 gunship and isn't always right.

 

[Heavy Set]

AP
Creditors Urge Delta to Weigh Options
Friday December 22, 4:38 pm ET
By Harry R. Weber, AP Business Writer Unofficial Creditors Committee Urges Delta to Consider Options

ATLANTA (AP) -- Seventeen creditors who hold $2.25 billion in unsecured claims against Delta Air Lines Inc. in its bankruptcy case urged the carrier Friday to consider alternatives to its stand-alone reorganization plan.
Their announcement comes a day after the chief executive of US Airways Group Inc. issued a scathing rebuke of Delta's stand-alone reorganization plan and said he is more determined than ever to push ahead with his company's hostile $8.3 billion bid to buy Delta.

The 17 creditors, who form an unofficial committee of unsecured claimholders, said in a statement that while they appreciated Delta's progress to date in its restructuring efforts, the committee "expects Delta to consider methodically, proactively and fairly strategic alternatives to its proposed stand-alone Chapter 11 plan to ensure that creditor recoveries are maximized in the Chapter 11 process."

The statement said the unofficial committee consists of 17 members that hold unsecured notes, unsecured deficiency claims relating to aircraft equipment leasing arrangements and other unsecured claims totaling more than $2.25 billion of unsecured claims against Delta.

The total estimated value of all unsecured claims in Delta's case, which it disclosed in its reorganization plan, is roughly $15 billion, Delta spokesman Michael Freitag said. That means the unofficial creditors committee represents only 15 percent of the total claims. Also, Delta's pilots union, which supports management's desire to remain an independent carrier, holds an almost equal share of unsecured claims, $2.1 billion.

A spokesman for the committee, Todd Miller, did not elaborate on the committee's statement.

Freitag said Delta will consider what the committee has to say "even though they are not an officially sanctioned voice in the Chapter 11 process." He added, "As we have stated previously, we intend to move forward in a constructive manner that serves the best interest of our creditors and other stakeholders."

That committee is separate from the official committee of unsecured creditors in Delta's bankruptcy case that has a key role in deciding Delta's fate.
The official committee has said it supports Delta's decision to file its stand-alone reorganization plan on Tuesday, but will also weigh alternatives.
Other creditors, such as those on the unofficial committee, could put pressure on larger creditors to force Delta's hand. It remains to be seen how that will all play out.

Typically, in each class of creditors, Delta's plan would have to be approved by holders of two-thirds of the claims and a majority of the number of individual creditors. If a class is not impaired -- that is, if they are guaranteed of getting all of their money back no matter what -- they generally don't get to vote.

If one or more classes of creditors do not approve the plan, Delta could still confirm the plan through a so-called cramdown, a maneuver in which it must show the court that the dissenting class will receive more under the plan than it would under a Chapter 7 liquidation. The company also would have to show that any subordinate class, such as shareholders, would get nothing in the way of recovery under the reorganization plan.
Delta already has met that second test because its plan calls for current shares of the company to be wiped out.

If a competing plan were filed, creditors would vote on each individually. There have been bankruptcy cases where two competing reorganization plans were approved by creditors; in such a case, a judge decides which plan is confirmed after holding a hearing to determine which plan is in the "better interest" of the creditors.

As Christmas approached, US Airways CEO Doug Parker's comments Thursday made it clear his company isn't going to back down. Delta shot back Thursday that it hasn't changed its position that it wants to remain independent, intensifying the war of words that started when Tempe, Ariz.-based US Airways disclosed its offer to buy Atlanta-based Delta on Nov. 15.

So, creditors with only $2.5 billion of the total $15 billion in claims want Delta and the OFFICIAL creditors to take a good look at what is out there. Doesn´t mean much, since they aren´t on the official committee, and their claims are actually less than Dalpa´s total. I think they also want to look at other options too, like Northwest. They just stated they wanted Delta to look at ¨strategic alternatives.¨ I bet Grinstein is looking for a better deal than USair´s.

 

[Heavy Set]

Gordon has made many public statements supporting mergers should happen.

He also knows how precious it is to have happy employees, which he had at CAL. He wanted to merge with DL in the late 90s because of the ¨trust¨ most of the DL employees had with Delta, the non union ones. He knows that customer service would take a nose dive and trust would go out the window in a hostile takeover. He didn´t like Leo Mullin at DL, but he has been gone for years now. I think he will take a good hard look at this takeover and base his judgement on what would be good for Delta and the creditors. And, no matter what he says, it could all fall through with the Transportation committee and the DOJ. But, Gordon will make $25,000 a day for 10 days.

 

[JT8D]

Also, Delta's pilots union, which supports management's desire to remain an independent carrier, holds an almost equal share of unsecured claims, $2.1 billion.

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Hey Ironspud...did Delta not hire you or somthing?

Do you really have...*ahem* T-41 listed as aircraft flown?