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wt219200

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Since everyone loves to bash regionals this should be a good thread. Does anyone have anything good to say about any regional? Which is the most respected regional, who treats their pilots half way decent? "None of them do" will probably be the first response so I'll get that out of the way. But seriously does anyone like any regional. My vote goes to Cape Air, never heard a bad thing about them. What's everyone else got?
 
wt219200 said:
Since everyone loves to bash regionals this should be a good thread. Does anyone have anything good to say about any regional? Which is the most respected regional, who treats their pilots half way decent? "None of them do" will probably be the first response so I'll get that out of the way. But seriously does anyone like any regional. My vote goes to Cape Air, never heard a bad thing about them. What's everyone else got?

My airline is great, we overnight at your girlfriend's house
 
You are very naive to believe that pilots are going to get on this website and talk about how great their jobs are! I honestly heard the story of a pilot at a major carrier bitching because he "only" made $14,000 one month. Go figure. Here's an oxymoron for you- contented regional pilot.
 
I have been at Air Wisconsin for 6 years. I have been furloughed, had my pay cut, and have lived in 4 different domiciles. Even with all that, I really enjoy working here. I feel like I work at one of the best airlines in this segment of the industry.
 
To be completely honest I enjoyed my time at Xjet. The work rules were decent and crews were fun for the most part. Management always came across a straight foreward and I really never had any true problems with them.

MX was very good and we had Jetways about 85% of the time.
 
Regul8r said:
It's like asking "Which is your favorite venereal disease?"

There are plenty of antibiotics to clean them up now!
Midge
 
I use to work at cape air...yea, it was a great company...but se1776 is right, people dont stay there long enough to really have a say. There are advantages and disadvantages to all regionals.
 
flatspin7 said:
To be completely honest I enjoyed my time at Xjet. The work rules were decent and crews were fun for the most part. Management always came across a straight foreward and I really never had any true problems with them.

MX was very good and we had Jetways about 85% of the time.

I will second that. I really enjoy it here at XJT and we are treated pretty good. JMHO
 
flatspin7 said:
we had Jetways about 85% of the time.
That right there is the reason why ExpressJet is now listed as "major". You don't see the pilots at the majors walking up steps to get on their plane. Must be sweet flying for a major. I wouldn't know - us regional pilots only have jetways 50% of the time and 1/4 of that they are broken so we have to walk down the jetway to the tarmac and then walk up the stairs onto the plane.
 
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wheelsup said:
That right there is the reason why ExpressJet is now listed as "major". You don't see the pilots at the majors walking up steps to get on their plane. Must be sweet flying for a major. I wouldn't know - us regional pilots only have jetways 50% of the time and 1/4 of that they are broken so we have to walk down the jetway to the tarmac and then walk up the stairs onto the plane.


:bawling: :bawling: :crying: :crying: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
Lets get this straight... Cape Air is not a regional, it is a commuter. Puddle jumper, or whatever. A regional is a domestic carrier with a different set of work rules that mainline and ohhhhmmm..... different payscale too.
 
I work for SkyWest and have been happy here. Bear in mind this board attracts tons of the vocal disgruntled minority that you'll find at any company.
 
yaya said:
Lets get this straight... Cape Air is not a regional, it is a commuter. Puddle jumper, or whatever. A regional is a domestic carrier with a different set of work rules that mainline and ohhhhmmm..... different payscale too.

Straight from Cape Air's website...

Our fleet of 50 Cessna 402's operates up to 800 flights per day during high season. Last year we carried 560,000 passengers, making us the largest independent regional airline in the United States.

I understand where you are coming from but just because they don't fly RJ's doesn't mean they're not a regional.
 
wt219200 said:

I understand where you are coming from but just because they don't fly RJ's doesn't mean they're not a regional.

Thats right, and if they flew RJ's, that would make them SCABS!!!!
 
SkyNation said:
I work for SkyWest and have been happy here. Bear in mind this board attracts tons of the vocal disgruntled minority that you'll find at any company.




AND, tons of the kool-aid drinkers too!
 
wt219200 said:
Straight from Cape Air's website...

Our fleet of 50 Cessna 402's operates up to 800 flights per day during high season. Last year we carried 560,000 passengers, making us the largest independent regional airline in the United States.

I understand where you are coming from but just because they don't fly RJ's doesn't mean they're not a regional.

Cape Air isn't even in the same class as the current crop of carriers known as "regionals" these days. They fly for themselves, they're not a subcontractor. Also, I think they based their "largest independant regional" on the # of departures, ie they have the most number of departures out there. I'd bet a company like Skywest or Mesa carried a LOT more than 560,000 pax last year.

They do have a CAL code share down in FL if I remember correctly though. But code share [SIZE=-1]≠ fee-for-departure.[/SIZE]
 
wheelsup said:
Cape Air isn't even in the same class as the current crop of carriers known as "regionals" these days. They fly for themselves, they're not a subcontractor. Also, I think they based their "largest independant regional" on the # of departures, ie they have the most number of departures out there. I'd bet a company like Skywest or Mesa carried a LOT more than 560,000 pax last year.

They do have a CAL code share down in FL if I remember correctly though. But code share [SIZE=-1]≠ fee-for-departure.[/SIZE]

This whole argument strikes me as being about as pointless as arguing whether Jenna Jameson is a "porn star" or an "adult entertainment actress."

Who cares? I just wanna see her *%$!#.
 
Me too!!
 
Good Regional Job Isn't that like an OXYMORON (sp. intentional)

Most plumbers make more than a RJ Captain and they put up with less shiite.
 
Seriously look at a RJ Captain's wages compared to a city bus driver.

The problem is years ago ALPA and the mainline MEC's didn't give a crap about regional wages (it is only this year that they are paying attention) and ever since, it has been a race to the bottom. Or another example Eagle with an 18 year contract negotiated for them by mainline guys. Then the beancounters thought they could save a bunch flying a ton of rj's well you ever look at the CASM costs on an RJ compared to SWA's 737, it's cheaper to run a 737, go figure. So now the airlines are going to the lowest paid in the industry, and asking them to take a paycut. Now you have companies asking the pilots to fly a 90 seat airplane for the same wages. If that becomes the norm, you better pick a good regional because thats where you will be for many years.

Just imagine NWA gives Compass, Pinnacle, well probably not Mesaba because they will fight, E190's they could almost cover all their domestic flying with enough of them at regional rates.

Everytime you see a 90 seat plane at the regional level, thats one less narrowbody at the majors and maybe 10-15 less places at the big table for you.

Ask yourself how you are going to own a home, maybe a small vacation place, a boat and by the way pay for your kids to go to college on a 50 seat payrate, maybe as a plumbing contractor but not as an RJ driver.

If more pilots cared about rj starvation wages, we wouldn't see the backsliding of the majors into the regional abyss. Shouldn't a union be judged on how well it takes care of the least of it's members, how it treats it's young.

I'll quit ranting but I really wish to see this industry improve for everyone.
 
wt219200 said:
Since everyone loves to bash regionals this should be a good thread. Does anyone have anything good to say about any regional? Which is the most respected regional, who treats their pilots half way decent? "None of them do" will probably be the first response so I'll get that out of the way. But seriously does anyone like any regional. My vote goes to Cape Air, never heard a bad thing about them. What's everyone else got?

i have never heard an air wisconsin guy talk bad about his job. everyone i associate with from that company is happy and loves it. i have about 4 friends who fly for them and i run into countless awac jumpseaters in sdf to know what im talking about.
 
SkyWest
Horizon
Scenic
Air Wisky

I am sure there are more.....
 
b19 said:
Good Regional Job Isn't that like an OXYMORON (sp. intentional)

Most plumbers make more than a RJ Captain and they put up with less shiite.

Plus, you only need to remember two things as a plumber:

1. Sh!t flows downhill, and
2. Don't bite your finger nails
 
ballsdeep123 said:
Plus, you only need to remember two things as a plumber:

1. Sh!t flows downhill, and
2. Don't bite your finger nails

Three things, really.

3. Hot on the left, cold on the right.
 

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