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netjetwife said:
Actually, I would think that the family will be just fine, financially, at least. Randy flew the BBJ for the past 5 yrs so was paid professional wages. For those who don't know, that group had a separate contract in the past. In addition, the NJ pilots' new CBA has benefits for families who face the death of the pilot. Randy was a SU supporter and was concerned for the pilots who were underpaid. He looked beyond his own situation and saw what was needed by the group as a whole. Randy will be remembered for that ...


Do you EVER turn off this bull$hit?


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My guess is he would rather be remembered as a husband, father (?), friend...not a "SU supporter concerned for pilots who were underpaid".

good god NJ wife -- you are hollow and pathetic.
 
Gotta go with G200. TWA said I had to wear my hat on walkarounds. When it was -9 in MSP not counting wind chill, I wore a sock hat. I also abandonned my trench coat for a down jacket.

I appreciate being a good troop but I learned early on to put personal safety ahead of the company policy. Maybe this will be the catalyst for change at NJA. I hope so.TC
 
Gulfstream 200 said:
Do you EVER turn off this bull$hit?


:(


My guess is he would rather be remembered as a husband, father (?), friend...not a "SU supporter concerned for pilots who were underpaid".

good god NJ wife -- you are hollow and pathetic.

G200, enough of your winter speech and cold weather outfitting recommendations. It's becoming old and disrespectful. Seeing that you do not know all the facts either, it would be great if you could just keep quiet. That would be much appreciated.

How in the world did you get so astray from the original posting on this thread to lecturing us about winter gear and now slamming on others here???? Geeeez. You couldnt be MORE disrespectful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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First of all, trying to turn this in to a US vs. THEM union thing about not being provided the proper winter attire is about the most tasteless thing I have ever seen on this forum. Like G200 says, take care of yourself to the extent necessary to keep your good health. If doing so is not possible by complying with the dress code, screw them. This is called common sense.

Good bye Randy, God bless you and rest your soul. You'll be best remembered by your family and friends. It's those people that are the most important during this time.
 
NetJetsWife

Gulfstream 200 said:
Do you EVER turn off this bull$hit?


:(


My guess is he would rather be remembered as a husband, father (?), friend...not a "SU supporter concerned for pilots who were underpaid".

good god NJ wife -- you are hollow and pathetic.

I agree with you completely, G200. It is reprehensible to use someone's death to try to further your political (or union) agenda. NetJetsWife should have some respect.
 
His family and their community are honoring Randy for his role as husband, father (2 sons), son, and friend. It is natural that an aviation forum would remember other aspects of his life. The support he showed for the pilots mattered to his family. Randy's father asked his fellow pilots attending the funeral to wear the NJ uniform.

An unselfish attitude and volunteering to serve others are admirable traits that anyone should be pleased to leave behind as a legacy. Being a BBJ pilot means that Randy didn't need a new contract. That he concerned himself with pilots that did, speaks highly of Randy's character. There is nothing political in pointing that out. I had both written and verbal conversations with Randy. I will miss his support and advice.
 
netjetwife said:
Actually, I would think that the family will be just fine, financially, at least. Randy flew the BBJ for the past 5 yrs so was paid professional wages. For those who don't know, that group had a separate contract in the past. In addition, the NJ pilots' new CBA has benefits for families who face the death of the pilot....

I am happy to hear the guy made good money and that there are safeguards set in place to help out any NJA family feeling the loss of an employee. Making sure his family would be taken care if was the intent of my question, don't know about anyone else's.

Still no matter how much $$ the guy made flying the BBJ or how much life insurance he might have had, losing the sole provider of a family at 40 is most likely gonna be more than tough financially on the wife and kids about to set off for college in a few years, not to mention brutal just to lose him period.

I know my first reaction (after a prayer for him and his family) when I heard about it, (especially considering the fact he was younger than I am) is that I knew if it were me, my wife & kids would be screwed. Time to look over "the plan" again I guess...

I heard there will be a fund set up to help his two kids finish their flying lessons as that was a passion he had shared with them. Sounds like a great way to spend a day's perdiem to me...
 
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Make no mistake, there are not enough "safegaurds" in place for anyone at NetJets to protect their family when the reason is not "flight related". At 40 years old, or any age, this is truly a long term hardship for the family. I have known Randy for more than 16 years, he will be missed, in every possible way by friends and his family!
 
Like Peter has pointed out, death has a way of making you re-examine your own life. The need for a contingency plan is brought home, along with thoughts of relationships. As one of the BBJ pilots has just reminded us, the company benefit isn't enough to support a family that loses the pilot's income. While that is correct, it is also true that being paid professional wages allows a pilot to better prepare the family for any disaster, including death. College funds and investments can all be put into place ahead of time when the bread-winner's salary isn't taken up entirely with just providing the basics required to sustain a family. I am relieved that Randy had that opportunity to provide for his family's future. If frac pilots reassess their families' financial security due to the death of a fellow pilot, a measure of good will come from a tragedy.

BBJPilot, my condolences to you and the BBJ community within NJ. My friendship with Randy only spanned a year, but from that I can tell that his loss will be keenly felt among your group.
 
I know Randy's death was not aviation related but it make you sit back and really look at the fact that this business is one of the most dangerous in the world!!!!!!!

Many of us take such a cavelier attitude towards what we do.......all the more reason to try and prepare for the unexpected. We are all worth the money we make...and thensome!!!!!
 

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