DannyNoonan
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wow graduate from grade school already...yes this topic had been beaten to death...i hope the next time anyone has a gojet ? they will use the search function
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wow graduate from grade school already...yes this topic had been beaten to death...i hope the next time anyone has a gojet ? they will use the search function
Whiskerbizkit
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Have fun at Hojet for the rest of your career.
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In the strongest pilot hiring market in many years, there are still a few people who bring up...
"why not work at an alter ego?"
"upgrade is shorter....by two months!" etc....
If you are serious about your career and you are considering joining an alter ego carrier, you might as well:
1. Try and fail every checkride.
2. Put yourself on the TSA watch list.
3. Pick up a couple of felonies and DUI's.
The above measures will similarly aid your career, much like joining an alter ego carrier, Gojet.
"why not work at an alter ego?"
"upgrade is shorter....by two months!" etc....
If you are serious about your career and you are considering joining an alter ego carrier, you might as well:
1. Try and fail every checkride.
2. Put yourself on the TSA watch list.
3. Pick up a couple of felonies and DUI's.
The above measures will similarly aid your career, much like joining an alter ego carrier, Gojet.
swordfish
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that why Gojet has been hiring 18 month, with out any growth. YA NO ONE IS LEAVING.... KEEP TELLING YOUR SELF THAT.. I left months ago to CO..
You and a handful of other scumbags made it to cal. Congrats. 18 a month are not leaving gojet. It is getting harder and harder to hide.
Do you say you worked at "united express"?
Thought so. Liar and a coward. Nice combo.
007
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I KNOW YOU, U WERE IN MY CRASHPAD IN EWR, AND EVERYONE HATED YOU.
Yea sure, you got urs, meanwhile every other airline relaxed their scope so you could upgrade in that 70. Just wait till the old guys at CAL relax the scope for a couple of more bucks and you end up on the street, maybe then you will change your tune.
This guy hid in his room all day, only time u ever saw him was on the van. Hope you're enjoying the outcast life.
swordfish
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Shrek good luck at Spirit airlines I have 2 friends there that are check airman’s that are waiting for you!!! And if you get JR in the SIM I know him to.
Swordfish
PS I was never in a crash pad.. ERW
swordfish
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That why they keep advertising on climbto350 for pilots. I also heard that they just hired a new lady in HR just for GOJET Hiring. Yep I’m the liar
GO where ever the up grade is fastest. It not at tsa or gojet right now that all I’m saying
Sorry to disagree...well not really. Everyone does not feel GoJet is somehow worse than any other Regional. All Regionals are basically the same. Go work there or elsewhere depending on your own personal needs and desires. It won't work against you later in life and it may very well be the best for your situation. Don't let the union zealots affect your decision, especially from Flight Info. If you go to GoJet you will feel about it just like most regional pilots feel about thier own airline.
The basic sour grapes expressed here are simply the union zealots who have not gotten over the fact that their own MEC at TSA is responsible for GoJet seniority being separate from TSA. They are the ones who urged the TSA pilots to vote down the integration proposal because they were told they would get a better deal. They were wrong then and they are still wrong now. They just cant get beyond the fact that their own actions caused the situation they face today.
As for it having any negative impact on the rest of the Regional industry that is silly. All Regionals are the same...alter egos....for whatever major they fly for. Thats the facts despite the rhetoric you may hear on here. As for the lies and threats you see about your future, ignore it. It is simply the typical bully tactics used by your typical union zealot. When facts don't work resort to name calling and intimidation tactics. Well most people know better than to fall for that and I hope you do too. Good luck whatever your choice!
actually all you are saying is that you are without scruples and are a true low life.
Your welcome for the translation of your gibberish.
Good luck to you scumbag.
We are not "all alter ego pilots".
Nice try. Just you and your gojet scumbags.
That is funny. One post after the other gojet scumbag talks about "union intimidation" this moron alter ego pilot posts threats. Empty ones.
Perfect example....when facts don't work resort to name calling and intimidation. Thanks for the illustration!
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this was a post from TSA lounge last week
Since the NMB has issued their ruling, without further evidence, or possibly a Democrat in the White House, they will no longer be helpful. So sadly there are only two possible options to make GoJet go away.
First option is to come out with an outright attack saying that flying for GoJet could potentially end your career, aka a hiring ban. Much the same tactic that Duane Worth used to control Freedom. Go to the flight schools, take ads out, and let the pilots there know that going to GoJet would be harmful to their career. The result of this would be to make hiring so difficult that TSAH would have to legitimize GoJet.
Second, and much much less popular will be to "sleep with the enemy". He would have to go to GoJet and convince them that ALPA is a better labor union and that the Teamsters will not be able to give them the same quality of life that ALPA can provide. Once they are part of the ALPA fold they can be more easily assimilated.
Neither option is very easy and each had their own downside. But the current do nothing option is not working. It will not bring closure to this situation.
Now to the Skipster. I couldn't agree with you more. Prater needs to answer why TSA's isn't in a federal court yet. TSA keeps saying if you don't like it grieve it. But then when they loose, they still don't want to honor the decision.
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Since the NMB has issued their ruling, without further evidence, or possibly a Democrat in the White House, they will no longer be helpful. So sadly there are only two possible options to make GoJet go away.
First option is to come out with an outright attack saying that flying for GoJet could potentially end your career, aka a hiring ban. Much the same tactic that Duane Worth used to control Freedom. Go to the flight schools, take ads out, and let the pilots there know that going to GoJet would be harmful to their career. The result of this would be to make hiring so difficult that TSAH would have to legitimize GoJet.
Second, and much much less popular will be to "sleep with the enemy". He would have to go to GoJet and convince them that ALPA is a better labor union and that the Teamsters will not be able to give them the same quality of life that ALPA can provide. Once they are part of the ALPA fold they can be more easily assimilated.
Neither option is very easy and each had their own downside. But the current do nothing option is not working. It will not bring closure to this situation.
Now to the Skipster. I couldn't agree with you more. Prater needs to answer why TSA's isn't in a federal court yet. TSA keeps saying if you don't like it grieve it. But then when they loose, they still don't want to honor the decision.
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swordfish
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Where Alpa Stance on GoJet?
Defiantly not in line with TSA pilots, dose that make you wonder why?
I would like to say that I’m a proud ALPA CARD holder now.
Because ALPA was looking out for ALPA as they have demonstrated numerous times of late. Dork.
Why wouldn't ALPA look after ALPA? It is a business after all. Gotta protect their revenue!
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Thx for the good wishes........every Check airman that I have met are good people. Nobody has said they are "waiting" for me........lol.
Julio is a good egg.
Go ahead and PM me the other 2 guys you know there and I will enlighten them too of the shame on the industry that is GoJet.
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Thanks for doing your part too, Turd Muncher.
every alpa member knows who and what you really are.
An alter ego scumbag pilot.
And a potential SCAB.
Maybe the only true thing you have ever said.
Nevertheless, pilots know who and what you are. An alter ego pilot who is a threat to their careers.
Redbook, I gotta admit your my favorite zealot. Mindless retorts time and time again. Keep it up!
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Gayjhetters still munch the still steaming poo from a dogs butt, before a fly can land. May your F/A be liberal with the visine and your choice of dog poo have worms!
PBR
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Of course you got on with CAL, Scabs love their own!
Theo, Sh*tfish, et al....
You all seem happy to talk about union intimidation and how "misled" the TSA pilots were.... And then "threats" for another pilot at another carrier... But really, how informed are you? Were you there? Are you just blindly spouting what TSA mgmt has fed to you, or are you really informed??? Did you ever talk to ANY union official, or is this just what DT and SP were whispering in your pathetic automaton ears???? Come on, you have no ground to stand on... You were not there, you went the alter ego path, and you are not liked... I, for one, love to see you guys in ORD.... Even in another uniform, I still can't get ANY of your "guys" to keep eye contact... No pride from a group that screws over others... Now that is a pilot group!!!!!
You all seem happy to talk about union intimidation and how "misled" the TSA pilots were.... And then "threats" for another pilot at another carrier... But really, how informed are you? Were you there? Are you just blindly spouting what TSA mgmt has fed to you, or are you really informed??? Did you ever talk to ANY union official, or is this just what DT and SP were whispering in your pathetic automaton ears???? Come on, you have no ground to stand on... You were not there, you went the alter ego path, and you are not liked... I, for one, love to see you guys in ORD.... Even in another uniform, I still can't get ANY of your "guys" to keep eye contact... No pride from a group that screws over others... Now that is a pilot group!!!!!
AftCG182
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You know what? This is the kind of bull$hit is what makes alter-ego companies possible in the first place. I've been biting my tongue on this for a while now, but yesterday I bumped into a good friend from a long time ago (fellow Riddle grad) at the FlightSafety facility here in St. Louis. He's here training for the CRJ700....for....GoJets..... He's a good guy and I can't keep my big mouth shut any more.We're all in this industry for the same reason. To make money through flying airplanes for a living. Some of us have kids to feed... SO EASE UP.I happen to be here in St. Louis training for the E170, for Republic. I'm here after flying the Beech for Colgan in the Northeast. Whatever problems existed as a result of Colgan "stealing" routes from the USAir guys are no longer valid... that was a long time ago. Nobody is still pissed at Colgan. Maybe it's time to ease up on the GoJets folks. Maybe it's time to give the GoJets thing a rest.LISTEN-This is just my opinion. I'm here at the FliteSafety training facility in St. Louis until April 9. I'm not going to hide behind internet anonyminitity to express my opinion. Any problems... come see me, my name is Dave and I'm in St. Louis training at FliteSafety for Republic. I'm not looking for a fight, bt I'm sure as $hit not going to hide either. Thanks for listening, my friends...Dave
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Dave congratulations on getting the 170, riddle must have been worth it. Since you are in training and obviously did not have time to do a quick search and actually research this topic, i will briefly summarize. You comment about "stealing flying" from mainline. This is a free market society, and regrettably quality operations such as EXJet and AWAC lose out to other regionals in favor of the bottom line. This is not the case with GJet or Freedom. United awarded the flying of those CRJ 700s to TSA. That flying was awarded based on MY contract concessions and on MY on-time performance (we lie, but hey it looks good on paper). MY company used the profits (Hulas made $31 million profit in 2005 off of me) from MY operation to buy shiny new a/c and use MY company's infrastructure and resources to create this new airline so that the cheap azz company wouldn't have to pay its pilots a decent wage. They could instead pay a sub-industry average wage to 1st year captains, that is why the company created hojets. I have an utter disdain for ALL hojet pilots b/c they are knowingly bypassing seniority to personally cut infront of me (yes i am senior to every hojetter). That was MY upgrade that was awarded to MY company. I waited inline to "feed my kids." So yes, I personally have a problem, and will not "ease up", tell your buddy that he will never ride in my jumpseat.
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