GIV Prep Gouge

[Duderino]

Hello

I am trying to prepare for my GIV type, and am looking for any heads up or links to begun studying. I have heard the box is the hard part, and would like to find some more info out.

Dude

 

[2000flyer]

Hello

I am trying to prepare for my GIV type, and am looking for any heads up or links to begun studying. I have heard the box is the hard part, and would like to find some more info out.

Dude

Here is some G4 Info from airplanedriver.net website. Having never flown the G4, I can't comment on how good/current the info is.

I wouldn't "over-study" the plane. The type rating courses I've had, you never start at Chapter 1 and progress 2-3-4, etc. My suggestion (whats worked for me every time I've gone through a course) is have the limitations and memory items down cold. FSI or SimuFlite will teach you about the systems. If you have a copy of the emergency/abnormal checklists you can get a jump on memorizing the memory items. Same for the limitations.

Good luck!

2000Flyer

PS - a pilot in your department should have the items mentioned above. If not, call the school and they'll send you all your books in advance.

 

[G4G5]

Nice web site, I've been flying the 4 four 15 years, I've never seen such a nice web site.

I have to agree with 2000flyer, learn the memory and limitations and let the rest fall into place. How upto date is the F50 info?

Take it from someone who just flew his last 4 flight, it's a great aircraft. Enjoy!

 

[AAPvtPilot]

Try this:

http://www.thelandingstrip.org/files/GIVNotes.doc

Hope it helps.

 

[Duderino]

Thank you all for your kind words and help. I appreciate it all. I am looking forward to all of this. 2000flyer, I think I will take your advice.

Dude

 

[2000flyer]

Thank you all for your kind words and help. I appreciate it all. I am looking forward to all of this. 2000flyer, I think I will take your advice.

Dude

No problem my friend. Two more pieces of advise: 1- Keep your sense of humor; 2- HAVE FUN! All the rest will fall into place.

Good luck and let us know how it went.

Regards,
2000Flyer

 

[TIS]

My .02 - for whatever it's worth

The G-IV is a very nice airplane to live on. It does have some quirks though - which you will learn about in the sim so I won't over-do it here. However, there are a few things I should say.

First, be careful about anything in the website that 2000flyer posted. Don't misunderstand me - it's a fine site - but since it is derived from a GIII template some of the stuff in it is just plain wrong. There are some VERY significant differences between the III and the IV and some of them are blurred here.

All that said however, it is important to also understand that the G-IV is, for the most part, very much like the G-III so if you know a III a little study of the systems differences will have you ready to proceed quickly through the type on a IV. The major differences are in the engines, hydraulics, brakes, air conditioning/pneumatics, electrical, and most importantly, the AVIONICS. I know that sounds like the whole airplane but the differences make the IV simpler than the III, you just need to know them.

That's where the FMS stuff comes in. The FMS is a little rough to get used to if you've never operated a Honeywell system. Unlike the Universal boxes, you write what you want in a scratchpad and then put in the line tou want it in using line select keys. If you're used ot Universal, you'll be stumbling around over that little wrinkle in the carpet for a while.

For the checkride (FlightSafety LGB at least) know how to insert a "direct-to-intercept" to extend the line of a course to be intercepted. Don't worry, they'll make sure you know how to do it before you go in the check. You'll have to do it for the type.

You should also know your symbol generator switching. You'll get a failure somehwere on the check right on rotation. Gouge here is to get on the peanut, hand it to the PNF, and select your DUs to their alternate SG. Then you can have the airplane back.

Watch out for electrical issues. The airplane is VERY sensitive to electrical transients. Engine failures or anything that gums up the electrics and forces it into one of its gymnastic routines will cause strange things to happen either immediately or down the road.

One simple rule to keep in mind is that when any sort of transient occurs consider seriously 1) turning off and resetting the E-Batts, and 2) turn the W/S heat off then back on again to recycle each of these systems back into normal operation (neither will be operating normally after a spike).

Finally, keep in mind that the checkride, no matter where you do it, is largely an automation check. In other words, it tests your ability to type and to spin selector knobs on the guidance panel.

Your training, as long as it's an initial course, should give you everything you need to get the license to learn. Good luck!

TIS

 

[Gearmunky]

I agree with what TIS said, the G-IV is pretty straight forward. I went into it with no FMS training and no business jet experience at all and came out fine. If you go to FSI, there is a couple of programs they have that are for you to work on by yourself. The FMS program is really good and you actually make the airplane fly through the FMS. It sounds weird but it works pretty good as a training aid. The other program is an electrical malfunction program that shows you what the EPMP panel looks like during different problems. The problem with it is that you get better indications from the DU's and other things rather than the panel itself. Remember the APU is your friend, and can be used up to 35K. I'm sure you will be fine. Just remember if it ain't fun it ain't worth doing.

Where are you going for training?

 

[AA717driver]

FSI is absolutely ape$hit about the walkaround. Learn ALL the limitations and start learning the walkaround video/powerpoint/slides from day one. The rest will fall into place.

The walkaround was a major part of the oral. Have fun, I'll be joining you in Mar. '05.TC

 

[Duderino]

Thanks for the help. I appreciate all the help. I am sure I will be fine, but I hope I am not studying the wrong limitations, from the website. Did you find many errors in the limitations? I am trying to just get a brief explanation of the systems and then trying to nail the limitations and the memory items. I have had a hard time trying to find the GIV memory items. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

TIS are you a Ducks Unlimited member, cause I have know idea what you are talking about with the whole DU SG Zulu Niner talk. LOL. Thanks for the help, and I will try to keep it simple like suggested until school.

I will let you know how things are going.

Dude

 

[Jack Schitt]

You're having problems finding memory items on the GIV because there are NONE.

.....and no, I'm not kidding.

 

[Ultraman]

Jack Schitt is correct. And, by the way, I don't know Jack Schitt!

 

[Jack Schitt]

LOL! Now that's funny! I'm glad you didn't mistake me for my uncle, Fulla Schitt.

 

[FracCapt]

On the subject of the GIV....a friend of mine was looking through a Simuflite GIV checklist, and saw something there that caught his attention....and he asked me if I know what it is...but having no time in type, I had no clue.....so....what is the "Nutcracker" referenced on the before landing(I think) check?

 

[2000flyer]

On the subject of the GIV....a friend of mine was looking through a Simuflite GIV checklist, and saw something there that caught his attention....and he asked me if I know what it is...but having no time in type, I had no clue.....so....what is the "Nutcracker" referenced on the before landing(I think) check?

It's a mechanism by which Gulfstream pilot's are repeatedly beat with to put down Falcon 2000 operators!

my turn....I couldn't resist

2000Flyer

 

[Mudworm]

On the subject of the GIV....a friend of mine was looking through a Simuflite GIV checklist, and saw something there that caught his attention....and he asked me if I know what it is...but having no time in type, I had no clue.....so....what is the "Nutcracker" referenced on the before landing(I think) check?

The Nutcracker system on the GII GIII and GIV is what Gulfstream calls the Weight on Wheels or WOW system on their aircraft or the way the aircraft knows if it is in the air or on the ground. The check prior to landing is to verify the aircraft is in the air mode prior to arming the automatic ground spoilers (to prevent accidental deployment if the thottles are pulled to idle while still in the air).

 

[TIS]

Sorry about that

TIS are you a Ducks Unlimited member, cause I have know idea what you are talking about with the whole DU SG Zulu Niner talk.

I get a little carried away sometimes. I thought I had spelled out all the terms and then later abbreviated them but I see that I left "DU" out of the picture. It means Display Unit - those are the screens - but you'll learn all about that soon enough.

Hope you enjoy the plane!

TIS