Get noticed and fly!

[JetBlast2000]

Have any good ideas on how to get your resume noticed among the melee that are out there right now? I’m a CFII/MEI at a “good” 141 flight school with 1800 TT and 310 Multi. I seem to be averaging about 40-80 resumes send out each month. I’m still paying my dues, but short of updating every month with my list of possible employers, finding new places to apply, and / or traveling to all of them to hand deliver my resume, I’ve had zero response… Suggestions?

BTW-PFT is NOT a viable option for me… yet…?

 

[LearLove]

JB2000,

What can we say but, Keep at it. I know it stinks to hear that but at this time all you can do is keep flying and updating and keep your nose clean. Something will come in time. You don't have your ratings listed, so if you don't have it I'd suggest you get your ATP assuming you meet the other mins, I see you have the total time. Buy the ATP book knock out the written (you don't need to pay $$$ for the course) then knock out the rest of the ATP, you'll save $$ that way.

Just look at it this way, you've got a job at a "good 141 school", that means a stable company/job, alot of us around here wish we could say that about our comany right now. You have something we don't.

Take Care

 

[generaltso]

Have patience. In my opinion, in the pre 9/11 days it was OK to send out a bunch of resumes - you could get a job fairly easily with your hours (as I am sure you know).

However, now... I think most jobs are luck and/or knowing someone. My post 9/11 job was just luck, being in the right place at the right time.

Also, some people have this thing called "Networking". In my opinion "networking" is a bunch of b.s. It basically boils down to kissing someones ass for a possible walk in resume?? I hate when people say "you have to network more".

If you work at a part 141 school then I am sure other instructors go on to other jobs. Don't you have any friends out there who you could call up and ask if their companies are hiring?

Finally, yes people want to move on in aviation. However, don't forget that with this economy and the amount of pilots on the street today - we should all be lucky that we have a job behind the yoke, not a desk.

 

[tittyjet]

Get a foot in the door.....

When I was an executive at a Fortune 250 company in a previous life, I had a guy FedEx me a shoe with a resume in it. Attached to the shoe was a note that read, "I'm just trying to get my foot in the door."

I called him in for an interview, hired him, and he went on to do great things.

Best of luck.

 

[flightmahtman4n]

Every company is going to get my shoes! That is a great idea, if a company can accept that kind of humor, then I want to work there!!

 

[T-Gates]

No company would hire me if they ever got one of my shoes in the mail.......

Resume attatched to well-worn Birkenstock? I think not......

--03m

 

[wackford]

If you completed pilot training in the National Guard or Reserves it would help. Of course that would take considerable time.

 

[acaTerry]

About 3 years ago those would be good numbers. Too bad today b/c there is so much competition. Your ratio is good. Keep flying and wh0re yourself out for multi as much as you can.
Things are slowly coming together, so hang in there. It'll happen for you. Good luck!

 

[Ben Dover]

Forty to eighty resumes a month is a noble effort. But from my job hunting efforts, both in aviation and out, resumes alone just don't get you a job. Maybe you're already doing this, but focus your efforts on networking. Then once you have an "in" shoot a resume to the appropriate person.

With the right contacts and some luck, you should be able to get a job with those times.

good luck,
BD

 

[JetBlast2000]

Thanks for all the encouragements! I guess the moral is to just keep plug’n away. Persistency and consistency will be my bedrocks… I’m flying so I can’t bitch too much. I do know a few instructors at a few different airlines, but none of them are hiring now. L I should get my ATP in the next month or so, that should help.

-JB2K

BTW – My top 4 choices each will be getting a shoe in the mail! But I think I should go get some of that bowling alley smelly stuff. I wouldn’t want to offend!

 

[generaltso]

Don't do the shoe thing. It is not original anymore... most of the HR people have seen it already.

 

[fmnmetalbender]

Mesa Airlines Pilot Development in Farmington, NM has an ATP course where essentially it is a couple hours sim time prep, a couple hours in the Baron, and then the checkride. Upon successful completion you are given an interview. Seeing how much they are hiring and how fast their pool is shrinking this is a low cost to get your ATP plus a straightforward shot at getting hired. Good luck.

 

[bobbysamd]

Resume spam campaign

You are certainly trying hard enough if you're sending as many resumes per month as you say. Are you sending to the same people over and over or to different companies? You should be doing both. Also, apply to any place for which you are even remotely or marginally qualified.

If you're applying to commuters, your quals aren't bad, but you're slightly light on multi to be competitive in light of the rest of the hiring pool. Getting your ATP would help.

The long and short of it is no one really is hiring. Not hearing from anyone is all part of the process. Take it from someone who knows. Just keep trying. Also, be sure that you have the address of every operator in creation.

Here's a link to another thread where this is also being discussed.

Good luck with your efforts and try to be patient. I know that sounds like Kit's garbage, but you really have no choice right now.

Don't P-F-T.

 

[climbhappy]

as a new hire fo, i was told an atp didn't matter...because you got it for free on the first type ride....


anyone agree?

 

[bobbysamd]

ATP

Having the ATP did matter several years ago. Several commuters required it. In any event, you should always present the best credentials possible. The ATP is one of them. It may be enough to give you that ever so slight advantage over someone.

 

[AWACoff]

GeneralTSO...what you have just described IS networking! Before you knock something, at least have a grasp as to what it is. Jetblast, generaltso is right, however. Network through your old co-workers who have gone on to better places and see if they can help.

 

[generaltso]

I just associate the word networking with "kissing ass". People say get out there and network. That is b.s. if you are a nice enough guy you will make friends in the industry. The term networking is like "hey pretend to like someone so they will help you out".

I think the main thing is that when you are at a job you will make friends with some people. Keep in touch with those people, they may be able to help you out later - or you may be able to help them out later.

Old co-workers is where its at.

 

[wingnutt]

I think the main thing is that when you are at a job you will make friends with some people. Keep in touch with those people, they may be able to help you out later - or you may be able to help them out later.

Old co-workers is where its at.

that, young g'wasshoppa, is a textbook definition of "networking"

ref Websters 1999 version; see also; network n a closely linked group of people, companies, etc.

im unsure as to how you confuse networking with @$$ kissing...thats a whole other ball of wax