Geragos threatens ExtraJet

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Timebuilder

Do you mean Extrajet, or do you mean one or two individuals at Extrajet? If the offender is the owner, then I agree that he represents his company. As of yet, we don't know who is the offender, other than the one particular passenger

Timebuilder, after all of the comments here, I can't believe you're still trying to put lipstick on this pig. I don't care if the responsible party was the CEO or the assistant janitor. Extrajet was WRONG and they will suffer for it. Anyone paying 6k an hour to fly expect total privacy, and its up to the company to make sure they get it. And you don't get to suspend the rules of decency, just because you don't like the passenger.

 

[350DRIVER]

Obviously he should go after the company, I truly hope he does.

What ever happenned to INNOCENT 'til proven GUILTY!

Exactly. ...


That is why a good majority of Hollywood is now standing up for this man not to mention a huge fan base around the world. Funny thing is that the "accusers" mom sued JC Penney awhile back and falsified a report about sexual abuse by the security guards so most can see who is behind these accusations present day. !! !! - Was quite interesting hearing about the mother's past.


One cannot convict another by opinion, wait until the facts come out in a court of LAW.

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[metrodriver]

No, not Hillary, Linda Trip or something like that.
How about if the camera was placed on the plane by law-enforcement? Trying to get some info at a place where the subject thinks he is not being watched?

 

[350DRIVER]

metro-

The company supposebly shopped the tape around to numerous media outlets so I would only assume that in no way, shape, or form that any law-enforcement agency was involved in this more so Geragos would not have slammed them in the way he did publicly.

When someone charters any aircraft and pays that much money regardless of whether it is the Pope or some peon privacy should not be compromised in any way. If I were Geragos I would do everything in my power to shut them down and make them look extremely bad in every media outlet and do it very publicly.

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[350DRIVER]

Timebuilder, after all of the comments here, I can't believe you're still trying to put lipstick on this pig. I don't care if the responsible party was the CEO or the assistant janitor. Extrajet was WRONG and they will suffer for it. Anyone paying 6k an hour to fly expect total privacy, and its up to the company to make sure they get it. And you don't get to suspend the rules of decency, just because you don't like the passenger.

Someone had to say it.

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[jergar999]

I have to agree that Xtra Jet is wrong, regardless of what happens with Michael Jackson. Two wrongs don't make a right. I just feel bad for any employees that were in no way responsible but will probably lose their jobs.

 

[FL240]

Well fortunately it is a fairly small charter department. Alot of people that I know there have already jumped ship, or got laid off and gone on to better jobs. No doubt they will have legal troubles for awhile, and rightly so. I saw a bit on Larry King tonite. Geragos brother (also an attorney) said he had already worked a case representing an FBO that sued Xtrajet for not paying an outstanding fuel bill. They won that suit. And I am sure they will win whatever suit they file against them on this issue. Even if Xtrajet didnt put the camera equipment on the airplane (which I doubt) they still tried to distribute the tape and make a profit off of a clients legal/personal problems. <--Both illegal and highly unprofessional. Like many have already said, people that pay for these charters expect and deserve the utmost privacy. I dont think what MJ is accused of here has much bearing....the fact that he was taped illegally should be the only issue.

 

[350DRIVER]

the fact that he was taped illegally should be the only issue.

I think that is why there is so much outrage right now regardless of whether or not you like or despise Jacko. Given the circumstances the charter company did it for one reason and one reason only, as one of the employees said earlie>"profit". I found it quite interesting that no other employee would issue a statement, comment or anything else along those lines to try and implement damage control. I guess they already cooked the goose more than well done. The company needs to be held fully accountable for these actions and according to the ap charges are very likely very soon.

A man who answered XtraJet's reservation line said the company had "no comment to make at this time." The Los Angeles Times quoted an XtraJet official as saying, "We explored the opportunity as any business person would."

Recording attorney-client conversations violates federal and state law so one would only assume that multiple charges are also likely here very soon.

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[SDF2BUF2MCO]

While I totally agree what this company did was wrong, I wish we had the same (or even more) outrage about our guberment invading our privacy via the Patriot Act, et.al. Access to financial and medical records and they don't even have to have a warrant. Since it's the guberment that means their reasons are more noble so that justifies it.

Heard an interesting theory on the radio today. The theory is if this video shows MJ acting "normal" that it may have actually been setup by MJ's team. This enables MJ to look like a regular guy and not the weirdo that he is. It also makes it look like he is being unfairly picked on so he can play the sympathy vote.

The theory would be plausible had not they tried not to shop it around (not unless the lawyer put the owner/company up to it!).

 

[Timebuilder]

Timebuilder, after all of the comments here, I can't believe you're still trying to put lipstick on this pig. I don't care if the responsible party was the CEO or the assistant janitor. Extrajet was WRONG and they will suffer for it.

Let's say for a moment that we all work for the same carrier. This week, one of the other pilots shows up drunk, has to be pulled off the airplane in a very public scuffle.

Now, an attorney goes on TV and says that he will do everything he can to put our airline out of business, and that the entire company should be held responsible for the actions of a single employee. Maybe he says something clever like "XYZ air failed to control their pilots. They cannot be trusted to fly passengers".

Now, do you still think that Extrajet should be punished, or do you think the individual who is at fault should be identifed and punished?

 

[FL000]

That analogy is so far off the mark that I can't even begin to rebut it. I wouldn't know where to start.

Xtrajet shopped this video, that means the directors or owners of the company. If a pilot set up the camera and shopped the video around, media outlets would not imply that Xtrajet, the company, was shopping it. If they did and were wrong, company directors/owners would be screaming foul at the top of their lungs. That hasn't happened.

Whoever shopped the video did it as an authorized representative of the company and the company should take the fall. Someone from Xtrajet said himself (paraphrased), what businessman wouldn't try to sell this if he had it?

I can name one...me. Anyone else with scruples would be included on that list also.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

I think part of their problem will be that an employee of their company knowingly set up a hidden camera, which most likely broke some privacy act somewhere.

And as a result the company will probably be help liable for that individuals actions in some fashion.

PS Timebuilder,

Do you happen to work for Xtrajet? You seem to have a strong opinion regarding the company? (No flaming intended)

 

[Vladimir Lenin]

The theory is if this video shows MJ acting "normal" that it may have actually been setup by MJ's team. This enables MJ to look like a regular guy and not the weirdo that he is. It also makes it look like he is being unfairly picked on so he can play the sympathy vote

that's a good theory, and that's why I think good lawyers are on par with the best politicians of our time

 

[stingray]

Someone at extrajet is most likely responsible for putting the camera on the plane.one of the pilots or the flight attendant(if there was one) had to know, or all three did. Think about it.
If the head person at extrajet has nothing to do with it , they should have came out with an immediate release condeming these actions, and firing the parites trying to make a buck off it.
No matter what we may think of MJ, It is totaly unacceptable what whent on that flight. God knows my company will never even talk to them for any extra flights that we may need to farm out.
Extra is going to be hurting irregardless who did it. Lets not look to deeply here. While waiting for paxs Most crews know when someone is on thier plane and whats going on. Who hit the record button, you need to get a camera started at the right time so it does not run out of power or tape
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[Timebuilder]

Xtrajet shopped this video, that means the directors or owners of the company.

No, it does not.

According to what many of you are saying, a couple of people, or even one person who taped the cabin and shopped the tape, can take on the corporate personality and responsibility of Extrajet. While a judge could indeed say that Extrajet could have or should have known about this activity as a company, the same could be said for "allowing pilots to drink before duty". In both cases there is activity by individuals or persons unknown that could be illegal activity (which, in the case of Extrajet, might not have been illegal unless there is a contract that specifies privacy) and the corporate entity is being blamed for the misdeeds of the individuals. When individuals perform misdeeds, it it those individuals who should be sanctioned, not their employer.

As I said earlier, if the person who made and shopped the tape is INDEED the owner of the company, then he may have to sell off his assets to pay a judgement, which WOULD put the company out of business.

 

[stingray]

Has "The Boss of extrajet" come out and condemed these actions.I have not heard that yet. Do they have there hand in it to?

 

[Timebuilder]

I think the only one speaking at Extrajet is their attorney. Ironic, eh?

 

[LAZYB]

WINNER!!! Vladimir Lenin

#1 oxymoron - "best politicians" nudging out "good lawyers" by a RCH

 

[FL240]

LOL

 

[metrodriver]

The reason I think it might have been by law enforcement was that somewhere it was said that people cleaning the plane after the flight found the tapes in the baggage hold, and went subsequently to the press. If you're the pilot or the fa and want to make a quick buck I think the tape would be the first thing you would grab after getting on the ground, not leave it there for others to find.
just my opinion