George Bush Shootout - HAHAHAHA!

[norskman2]

Re: WMD

If there are no WMD in iraq, then where did they go? Did sadam sell them on e-bay? In 1990/1 I remember SCUDs in Dahran.

The Scuds - missiles and launchers - were dismantled after Gulf War I. Of course, the Inspector Clouseau-like UN inspectors could never verify that every last missile was destroyed. However, the key is what David Kay said in his recent testimony: the evidence is that Iraq never restarted any of its WMD programs after Desert Storm. Ego-driven maniacal Saddam just wanted the West to think he did so that he could act like he was still a playah.

: iraq is to al queda, what michael jackson is to boys.

More like what MJ is to normal people: completely incompatible.

Al Queda is driven by religious fervor. They viewed Saddam as a secular, corrupt infidel.

Here's what the Cato Institute (a CONSERVATIVE think tank, I might point out) had to say just before the festivities began last year:
"But the administration's strongest sound-bite on Iraq is also its weakest argument for war. The idea that Saddam Hussein would trust Al Qaeda enough to give Al Qaeda operatives chemical or biological weapons -- and trust them to keep quiet about it -- is simply not plausible. Bin Laden, who views the rigid Saudi theocracy as insufficiently Islamic, has long considered Saddam Hussein an infidel enemy. "

http://www.cato.org/dailys/03-05-03.html

 

[CatfishVT9]

So no link between Saddam and terrorism? I guess that's why Abu Nidal was living in Baghdad............

 

[vc10]

So no link between Saddam and terrorism? I guess that's why Abu Nidal was living in Baghdad............

No, the statement was "no link between Saddam and Al Qaeda".

Abu Nidal was an old-style and basically retired Palestinian terrorist. He was an adherent of radical leftist political views (i.e. socialism, communism or some other sort of leftish, basically anti-religious fascism). That's why Saddam gave him shelter---they had similar political views. Abu Nidal represents old-fashioned 1960s/1970s state-sponsored terrorism, of the type the Bush Administration understands.

By comparison, Al Qaeda, as we all know, is highly religious and regarded Saddam, Abu Nidal, etc as borderline apostates---i.e. enemies to be hated only slightly less than the US.

So, to review, Abu Nidal was not connected with, and in fact can be regarded as an enemy of, Al Qaeda.

These distinctions are important, because we stand a much better chance of defeating the enemy if we understand it.

Al Qaeda is not tied to, and does not rely upon, any particular state. In fact, one thing about the new style terrorism (which the old-fashioned cold warriors in the Bush Administration still don't seem to understand) is that if anything, Al Qaeda hijacks states, rather than being supported by them. That's almost certainly what will happen now in Iraq if we leave.

One of the few good things about an Iraq controlled by Saddam is that he kept Al Qaeda out. One of the big screw ups of the Bush Administration is that they've let Iraq devolve into such chaos that Al Qaeda has now taken root there---Iraq is now a breeding ground for Islamist terror.

 

[Ligeirinho]

Ok guys just to number some of imporvement in homeland security he (Mr. Busch) never did...

1- Anywhere in the world but here only airline employees can have access to simulator training (now the question why somebody that is not even a pilot need to get simulator training?) for a good money anyone can here in US even after 9/11.

2- Why the TSA guys that never did that job before 9/11 don't get any specialized training in place like frankfurt that check people for more than 25 years and is considered so safe that any flight to israel that is not El-Al needs to stop there. (And avoid all that hassle that they cause and don't even know what they are looking for)

3-Why USA still the only country in the world where people can buy guns on Wallmart and think this is freedom. (no country in the world allows people have guns. just cops and military of course). Here any drunk person who think somebody talk to his girlfriend can go ahead and kill the guy with an Wallmart's gun.

4-And why the president invaded somebodie's country against all people who said they didn't have what he was suposedely looking for?

5-And you know more why Busch wants to inspect everybody about WMD but doesn't let anyone inspect here in US?

6- you probably to young and not aware of the US helping to put down the president of Venezuela just because he said he was not going to sell oil to US anymore unless get paid in euros, so busch decided to spend some extra money in trying to put him out. But this plan as several others from him ended in big money spent money that we taxpayers gonna pay one way or another and the worst is that in him doing so all the world thinks US are bad but who is really bad here is yours Mr. Busch who think people are from evil just because they have diferent religion.

BTW: somebody with this such name Busch could not be good of course, at least they always stuck on my throat.

 

[LegacyDriver]

Ok guys just to number some of imporvement in homeland security he (Mr. Busch) never did...

3-Why USA still the only country in the world where people can buy guns on Wallmart and think this is freedom. (no country in the world allows people have guns. just cops and military of course). Here any drunk person who think somebody talk to his girlfriend can go ahead and kill the guy with an Wallmart's gun.

Thank God for the right to bear arms. If it weren't, we'd probably live in a shi**y country like the one this guy comes from. You foreigners are a bunch of d-a-m-ned cowards when it comes to self-defense and I pray we never give up our right to protect ourselves from the thugs out there. It is also quite evident you have absolutely NO idea what you are talking about. You can't just stride into Wal-Mart and buy a gun.

Just ask yourself one question: A man stands in your bedroom doorway with a knife prepared to stab your wife...which would you chose to have in your possession, a phone or a handgun?

Moron...

 

[kepjet]

Ok guys just to number some of imporvement in homeland security he (Mr. Busch) never did...

1- Anywhere in the world but here only airline employees can have access to simulator training (now the question why somebody that is not even a pilot need to get simulator training?) for a good money anyone can here in US even after 9/11.

2- Why the TSA guys that never did that job before 9/11 don't get any specialized training in place like frankfurt that check people for more than 25 years and is considered so safe that any flight to israel that is not El-Al needs to stop there. (And avoid all that hassle that they cause and don't even know what they are looking for)

3-Why USA still the only country in the world where people can buy guns on Wallmart and think this is freedom. (no country in the world allows people have guns. just cops and military of course). Here any drunk person who think somebody talk to his girlfriend can go ahead and kill the guy with an Wallmart's gun.

4-And why the president invaded somebodie's country against all people who said they didn't have what he was suposedely looking for?

5-And you know more why Busch wants to inspect everybody about WMD but doesn't let anyone inspect here in US?

6- you probably to young and not aware of the US helping to put down the president of Venezuela just because he said he was not going to sell oil to US anymore unless get paid in euros, so busch decided to spend some extra money in trying to put him out. But this plan as several others from him ended in big money spent money that we taxpayers gonna pay one way or another and the worst is that in him doing so all the world thinks US are bad but who is really bad here is yours Mr. Busch who think people are from evil just because they have diferent religion.

BTW: somebody with this such name Busch could not be good of course, at least they always stuck on my throat.

I thought "Mr. Busch" was the guy who made delicious frosty malt beverages! I had no clue he was our president. Maybe that explains all the commotion.

It's obvious to me now what the real debate is about. BEER!!! If Busch only had used the intelligence obtained by Miller, maybe too we would have a cold filtered, better tasting quality product. My personal favorite is Yeungling (a delicious Pennsylvania brew). It's been around longer than anybody else in America and it tastes good too. Maybe we should vote Mr. Yeungling into office on election day to straighten out what Mr. Busch, Mr. Miller, and don't forget that evil bastard Mr. Pabst did to our country.

Please, everyone join me in supporting Mr. Yeungling in his quest for the oval office! I'd love to see what the innauguration ball would look like after this one!!

 

[norskman2]

Busch for President!

I thought "Mr. Busch" was the guy who made delicious frosty malt beverages! I had no clue he was our president.

How about Sam Adams for President? Woohoooo!!!!

 

[kepjet]

Thank God for the right to bear arms. If it weren't, we'd probably live in a shi**y country like the one this guy comes from. You foreigners are a bunch of d-a-m-ned cowards when it comes to self-defense and I pray we never give up our right to protect ourselves from the thugs out there. It is also quite evident you have absolutely NO idea what you are talking about. You can't just stride into Wal-Mart and buy a gun.

Just ask yourself one question: A man stands in your bedroom doorway with a knife prepared to stab your wife...which would you chose to have in your possession, a phone or a handgun?

Moron...

Amen, brother!

 

[platinumclub]

right to bear arms

Ligeirinho, i agree with you wholeheartedly. Legacy, get a clue, the reason everyone thinks they need a god**CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** gun is because pretty much any idiot can get one. You don't see European countries with the murder/crime rates of your precious US. What the $(&^ does opposition to guns have to being a coward, they just aren't redneck idiots thinking guns save the world. If you seriously sit at home thinking someone is going to break into your house and kill your wife, you have some issues. Go ahead and attend your NRA meetings, but don't complain when your son finds your gun and the unthinkable happens.

 

[LegacyDriver]

You are an utter and completely clueless MORON! America has a higher murder rate in every category INCLUDING bare hands. We are simply a more violent-prone society than most others and I will sleep quite soundly with a SIG in my nightstand, thankyouverymuch. I live by the motto I recited as a Boy Scout: Be Prepared. Or as they say in gradeschool, "Better safe than sorry."

I love debating with people who have no facts to backup their bullsh*t.

 

[platinumclub]

boy you sure are a class a citizen legacy

 

[LegacyDriver]

boy you sure are a class a citizen legacy

Kiss my hindquarters. This thread was not intended as a political flamefest and I'm a little bit ticked off that you clowns have decided to hijack it! Play the stupid game and enjoy the humorous ending. That was the point.

Load and lock, baby.