Gen DAL SeaHawks parade?? What happened?

[BILL LUMBERG]

Unfortunately for the Village Idiot, Delta completely dropped the ball on the return flight.

De-icing is understood. A stop in MSP was not expected for this high end charter. These guys expect to get what they pay for....a direct flight from EWR to SEA.

What should DL have done to save the day? Re-crewed the plane. It's sad they tried to get in the spot light and then choked. Kind of like the Broncos unfortunately.

Yeah Red....and SWA has the Feds in their pocket to get around those pesky 117 rules too? You know that was the issue.

Besides, the Cheerleaders and equipment wouldn't get far with the capacity on your jets.

 

[General Lee]

Why would they leave knowing they wouldn't make it to Seattle? Seems foolish

They still made SEA, with a quick stop in MSP. It's called multiple 767 crew bases, and a straight line to MSP and onto SEA. Improvising to keep delays to a minimum. Do you think they should have searched for more local 7ER crews in NYC during a bad snow storm? You probably do. What was the overall inconvenience? About 38 extra minutes. The de-ice took 2 hours and then typical EWR delays, with Super Bowl corporate traffic leaving nearby Teterboro too. You probably still don't understand....



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[redflyer65]

Jenny,

You have a 75/76 crew base in JFK? Yea, they should have called in a new crew when they knew the weather was coming. Your saying they did the 'right' thing by sticking with the original plan but FORCING the Super Bowl Champs somewhere they didn't want to go? Really?

 

[General Lee]

Jenny,

You have a 75/76 crew base in JFK? Yea, they should have called in a new crew when they knew the weather was coming. You saying they did the 'right' thing here by stopping the Super Bowl Champs somewhere they didn't want to go?

In a snow storm? Have you ever driven from JFK to EWR? How was traffic? Do you know everything about local conditions at the time? I doubt it. It might have been easier to fly them in from ATL. But, a decision was made to head toward SEA, make a quick stop at a base "on the way", and it all worked out, safely and by the rules. I'd say they did a great job with all the weather and mitigating circumstances. You think differently, but most do not. The company actually followed the rules during an important charter. That is a good thing.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Hey Red,

Watch out for those snow banks.......

Just sayin'

 

[waveflyer]

Can SWA guys please let the Alaska guys talk their trash-
Besides - we've done that same fuel stop in msp trying to fly a full -800 from MDW-SEA-

Stay on topic fellas- how GL is full of it when he says seattle's a delta town

 

[General Lee]

Can SWA guys please let the Alaska guys talk their trash-
Besides - we've done that same fuel stop in msp trying to fly a full -800 from MDW-SEA-

Stay on topic fellas- how GL is full of it when he says seattle's a delta town

Ahahaha! It soon will be Wavey, it will be. That's the point. But there is no doubt you guys OWN AMA, MAF, and LBB.... Congrats!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[dbrownie]

Jenny,

You have a 75/76 crew base in JFK? Yea, they should have called in a new crew when they knew the weather was coming. Your saying they did the 'right' thing by sticking with the original plan but FORCING the Super Bowl Champs somewhere they didn't want to go? Really?

Most likely it was the 4th floor dweebs in Atlanta who don't normally fly or
like to do the high visibility types of flights ie special insider deals, military charters etc....

Why use a NYC crew who would have been in position? Why make sense now easier to blame rest rules and defend a stupid decision.
Db

 

[General Lee]

Most likely it was the 4th floor dweebs in Atlanta who don't normally fly or
like to do the high visibility types of flights ie special insider deals, military charters etc....

Why use a NYC crew who would have been in position? Why make sense now easier to blame rest rules and defend a stupid decision.
Db

Uhhhh, lemme guess? FNWA? Anyway, the weather was poor to say the least the day after the Super Bowl. There may have been more spare planes in ATL, and ferrying a plane from JFK to EWR with a de-ice nightmare in JFK too might have yielded the same result---it took 2 hours to de-ice in EWR, why not the same at JFK before the ferry to EWR? It was probably faster to do it from ATL where the WX wasn't as bad.

And the reason this all happened was because of FAR 117. The pilots left early (6am) to get the plane up there early and ready, and you know teams who win the Super Bowl may not be ready to go on schedule, even though the plane was there 3 hours prior, ready to go.

Talk about "Monday morning Quarterbacking...." Except, most of you are on losing teams!


Bye Bye---General Lee